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Hello, I have no idea about the difference between perfect gerund and perfect participle. May anyone say something about it and give me some examples?
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Lily_Vnperfect gerund and perfect participle

I am not familiar with perfect gerund and perfect participle. But if I have to guess, it will be something like:

I have just finished painting my house. Here Painting is a participle.
A gerund is noun-like in function. A participle is a modifier. A participle can be a present participle or a past participle.

Gerund: taking (used where a noun would be used in a sentence)
Present participle: taking (used where a modifier would be used)
Past participle: taken

The perfect forms begin with the auxiliary have.

Gerund: having taken (used as a noun)
Present participle: having taken (used as a modifier)

Past participle: [not possible]

Mrs. Jones was upset about her husband's having taken the keys. (perfect gerund)

Having taken a nap, Larry was refreshed and ready to begin work again. (perfect participle)

CJ
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Hello,
Thanks for your response. These are some sentences using perfect gerund or perfect participle. Based on what you said, I determine it myself. Please correct it if I'm wrong.
1) I object him to having made private calls on the office phone. (perfect gerund)
2) Having been his own boss for such a long time, he found it hard to accepts orders from another. (perfect participle)
3) They denied having been there. (perfect gerund)
4) Having tied one end of the rope to his bed, he threw the other end out of the window. (perfect participle)
5) Having read the instructions, he snatched up the fire extinguisher. (perfect participle)
6) The children admitted having taken the money. (perfect gerund)

Thanks
I think you may have copied the first one wrong. It should probably read like this:

I object to his having made ...

In the second one, it's ... hard to accept orders ...

All your answers are correct.

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Anonymous:
Thank you ever so much indeed !!!! I'm studying for my competitive exams and it has been a great help. Greetings from Estepona (Malaga)
CalifJim
Gerund: having taken (used as a noun)

Present participle: having taken (used as a modifier)
Past participle: [not possible]


Is 'having been taken' not the past perfect participle?
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English 1b3Is 'having been taken' not the past perfect participle?
I was trying to show that the auxiliary has to have -ing. It can't be had. You can't have the participle had taken.

The terminology is confusing because what we call a present participle is actually more like an active participle and what we call a past participle is actually more like a passive participle.

Taking the lead, he ...
Taken by the police, he ...

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CalifJimYou can't have the participle had taken.

Why can't you, aside from that 'hading' makes no sense?
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