Quentin Burward    727156 Fri, 31 Oct 03 05:05 AM Peter Moylan at (Email Removed) says in (Email Removed): ^. "Agreed. In this context they're usually called "angle brackets"." "Sorry, that was a thinko on my part, caused by the OP calling them "carrots". I too would go with "angle brackets". Sometimes I'll call them "chevrons", but properly speaking that term should be reserved for the doubled-up version." Ah those things that remind us of a Citroën that has rolled onto its side. Quentin Burward. Quentin Burward Context, Friendships, Speaking, Chat, Apologies

	Donna Richoux    727382 Fri, 31 Oct 03 07:04 AM "Does the rule extend to paranthesis? It should, because it seems awkward to end a sentence with something between paranthesis, ... with the information given between paranthesis. After all, the purpose of paranthesis is to interrupt the flow of the sentence." The rules about parentheses and ending punctuation are not quite the same as either system for quotation marks and ending punctuation. I don't have time at the moment to write out the rules I know, but I'm sure you'll find them in the "writing guides" at Intro B. For example: http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/parentheses.htm Best Donna Richoux Donna Richoux Quotation Marks, Sentences, Writing, Punctuation

	dcw    727353 Fri, 31 Oct 03 09:18 AM "Sorry...copied them down the wrong way round...the double-H *does* occur more often in "withholding", which may have blinded me.." That's because there really *is* a double-H in "withholding". David dcw Apologies

	Harvey Van Sickle    727359 Fri, 31 Oct 03 09:29 AM -snip- "I found 542 for "filted"...some occurrences (from among those that are not clearly misspellings) appear to originate from an odd erroneous backformation from "filter", but the references to "filted yarns" have me wondering if there's some obscure technical meaning..r" Possibly: "filoselle" is a term for fine thread does the knitting community perhaps use "filted" rather than "filoselled"? Cheers, Harvey Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years; Southern England for the past 21 years. (for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs) Harvey Van Sickle Business, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, References, Career

	Woody Wordpecker    727501 Fri, 31 Oct 03 12:47 PM "Does the rule extend to paranthesis? It should, because it ... of paranthesis is to interrupt the flow of the sentence." "The rules about parentheses and ending punctuation are not quite the same as either system for quotation marks and ending punctuation." Actually, the rules are about the same, or at least analogous: In either the US or the UK style, enclose within parentheses only what you want to parenthesize. The gender of the noun is the same (male). (The gender of the noun is the same.) A special consideration is a complete sentence parenthesized within another complete sentence. The parenthesized sentence doesn't begin with a capital letter unless it begins with a word that's normally capitalized, like "I" and it doesn't have an ending period. However, it may have an ending question mark or exclamation mark. The gender (gender is not the same as sex) is unknown. The gender (is gender the same as sex?) is unknown. The gender (I mean gender, not sex!) is unknown. "I don't have time at the moment to write out the rules I know, but I'm sure you'll find them in the "writing guides" at Intro B. For example: http://ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/parentheses.htm" That source seems to cover the points I've made, except that it could be more explicit about a closing parenthesis at the end of a sentence. That is, write The gender is the same (male). Not * The gender is the same (male.) There might be a temptation to make that error because of confusion with the US rule for putting periods within quotes at the end of a sentence whether it makes sense or not. Good style (UK): Mark the package "fragile". Absurd style (US norm): Mark the package "fragile." Woody Wordpecker Nouns, Genders, Question Marks, Quotation Marks, Mistakes, Sentences, Writing, Punctuation, Styles, Capital Letters, Exclamation Marks

	Woody Wordpecker    727531 Fri, 31 Oct 03 01:01 PM ( . . . ) "Does the rule extend to (*)paranthesis(*)? It should, because it ... of (*)paranthesis(*) is to interrupt the flow of the sentence." If I remember correctly, Mark Israel's AUE FAQ advises against commenting on other posters' spelling errors, except when the misspelled item is a grammar or linguistics term. That exception covers the misspelling *"paranthesis". The singular is "parenthesis". The plural is "parentheses". In each of Mr or Ms Rise's uses in the quoted paragraph, it seems clear he or she should have written "parentheses". Woody Wordpecker Spelling, Plurals, Paragraphs, Mistakes, Sentences, Writing

	Frances Kemmish    727658 Fri, 31 Oct 03 03:22 PM "On 30 Oct 2003, R H Draney wrote -snip-" "I found 542 for "filted"...some occurrences (from among those that ... yarns" have me wondering if there's some obscure technical meaning..r" "Possibly: "filoselle" is a term for fine thread does the knitting community perhaps use "filted" rather than "filoselled"?" Not any member of the knitting community that I know. I haven't heard either "filoselle" or "filted". Google suggests "filoselle" is used in embroidery. http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/fi/filoselle164795.html Googling on "filted" gives a few results which refer to textiles, but they seem to be errors for "felted". Fran Frances Kemmish Mistakes

	R H Draney    727836 Fri, 31 Oct 03 05:17 PM Frances Kemmish filted: "Googling on "filted" gives a few results which refer to textiles, but they seem to be errors for "felted"." Oh dear...so if the word "filted" appears in an ambiguous context (1), it could be a typo for "filtered", for "felted", for "filled", or for "fitted"...any other candidates while we're at it?... I noticed once, before everybody was getting on those BBS things that were later replaced by newsgroups, that if I handed a longhand draft to our typists containing the word "modem", it'd be changed to "modern"...if I typed my draft (2) instead, the same word would become "model"...they also sent back "parsed" three times asking if I meant to say "passed"..r (1) I confess I'm having trouble thinking of one (2) every document had to be typed by the official typists; didn't matter if the person composing it was a touch-typist who didn't happen to have that job title R H Draney Mistakes, Context