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Guest  +  26332 Fri, 26 Mar 04 12:52 PM
could you please give me a words list which has the same spelling for both plural and singular
rommie  +  26337 Fri, 26 Mar 04 02:17 PM
fish
sheep
euro
dice (modern usage only - historically and in formal writing the singular is "die")

There may be more, but I can't think of them right now.
Rommie

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Pemmican  +  26354 Fri, 26 Mar 04 08:01 PM
Euro (the currency?) remains Euro also in Plural?

Thank you for the info, Rommie, I didn't know that.
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chris  +  26357 Fri, 26 Mar 04 08:27 PM
Yep, all valid. I can think of a few more:

data
media
innings (as in my beloved sport; cricket)
odds

By the way, I didn't know about the Euro one - I don't come from a country that deals in euro(s)???
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rommie  +  26378 Sat, 27 Mar 04 05:43 AM
I believe that someone, somewhere, decided that the plural of euro (the currency) would be euro because English is not the only language spoken in Europe. Since different languages form plurals in different ways, you would otherwise have ended up with a different plural in each language.

Rommie
rommie  +  26379 Sat, 27 Mar 04 05:52 AM
What is an odds?

I'm going to dispute "data", I'm afraid. In traditional use, data is the plural of datum (a datum being a piece of information, a 'fact'). In modern use, data is regarded as a mass-noun (you never say "a data") and so doesn't really count (unless we count all mass-nouns).

I think you can argue the case for media in modern usage, but remember that in traditional and formal usage, media is still the plural of medium.

Rommie
maj  +  26385 Sat, 27 Mar 04 09:39 AM
It might also be because English people aren't unfortunately using the euro. If they ever do that they'll probably end up saying euros like the rest of Europe.
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rommie  +  26398 Sat, 27 Mar 04 02:37 PM
OK, I've done some research and got the definitive answer on the euro.

This information comes from the European Commission Translation Service's English Style Guide.

Guidelines on the use of the euro, issued via the Secretariat-General, state that the plurals of both 'euro' and 'cent' are to be written without 's' in English. Do this when amending or referring to legal texts that themselves observe this rule. Elsewhere, and especially in documents intended for the general public, use the natural plural with 's' for both terms.


Note the final sentence, which, in effect, says "yes you can use -s after all". This document uses "euros", not "euro", as the plural form.

I think, therefore, we'll have to remove it from the list, except in legal texts.
Rommie
maj, 5 yr 240 days ago
You mean 2 euros is correct, you can use an s, can't you?
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