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Ipodmini  +  253770 Tue, 08 Aug 06 06:53 PM

Hi, everyone:-)

I think it's a great idea to learn english by listinging to the music, such as english songs.  However, I feel some part of lyrics are just far from easy to understand. In part,  it's because of omitted  lines for being adaptive to songs, etc.  I wonder how could I improve my understanding of lyrics?

Here is a part from a song named sitting down, which I just cannot quite understand, especially the parts in red.

I'm sitting down here
But hey you can't see me
Kinda invisible
You don't sense my stay
Not really hiding, not like a shadow
Just thought I would join you for one day

I hope I don't ask too much:-)

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Arvsworld  +  253982 Wed, 09 Aug 06 11:48 AM

Learning English by listening to songs is not always the best path. Like you said, there are often lines or words that are omitted. A lot of lyrics are written to fit the music. This causes many lines in certain songs to be grammatically poor. If you randomly listen to any song out there, you may learn the wrong things.

You'll have to ask some of your most trusted native English speakers to recommend songs for you to learn from. Many people may not like the genre, but Copacabana by Barry Manilow is an excellent song - musically and lyrically. You can learn structure (but not punctuation), tenses, genders, third person, and general story-telling.

http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/copacaba.htm

If you read through each verse, you'll find that all his ideas are complete and well structured to clearly tell his story.

Many of the older songs have better lyric writing as well. Many songs made popular by the likes of Nat "King" Cole and Frank Sinatra have well written lyrics.

Try to avoid learning from songs that use too many metaphors, reduced forms or omissions and slang.

-A

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Ipodmini, 3 yr 110 days ago
Thanks!
Vorpar  +  254221 Thu, 10 Aug 06 04:56 AM

As Arvsworld wrote, lyrics can be metaphor-heavy. We get a lot of questions about lyric meaning on these boards, and the only person that could truly define the song's lyrics is the author.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't ask, but expect that sometimes the answer will be "non-standard idiom", and your guess is as good as ours.

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Ipodmini, 3 yr 109 days ago

I see, thanks you all the same!

Anonymous, 1 yr 112 days ago
Hi hope this helps -

not like a shadow describes how he ( the singer)  is sitting . . .

the person the singer is sitting near to cannot see or sense ( ie smell, taste, touch) the fact that the singer is sitting near him
by elaborating that the singer is not hiding when he is sitting and is not like a shadow when he is sitting, the singer is telling us that he is in fact not really sitting near the person at all, but simply thinking about them, or wants the other person to know that the singer is with them ( but this is a spiritual and not physical thing)

Did I confuse you even more?

Happy to attempt to clarify.
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