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Damir  +  504469 Wed, 23 Apr 08 08:13 PM
Hi there,

I know theoretically difference between these two tenses, but it's confusing to me how to know when some action has an effect in the present (for PP)?
I understand all the examples written in grammar reviews, but when I have to use it in my sentence I have no idea what to use.

Today's example: I wrote something in one file, and now I don't know how to say to other person to see it:

"I've left you a file so you can see what I did" - is it correct?
"I tested it and it works for me, so it should work for you either" - is this one correct?

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Goodman  +  504491 Wed, 23 Apr 08 09:39 PM
Hi DamirI,
I 've left you a file so you can see what I did/ have done " - It's correct.
"I tested it and it worked for me, so it should work for you as well/too either"
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Damir  +  504779 Thu, 24 Apr 08 12:44 PM
Thanks for the reply.

Why does the first sentence go to PP? I don't really know why I('ve) put in PP. Why can be "have done" too, and does it change the meaning of sentece?

I've found an example..

She has broken her arm - the arm is still injured
She broke her arm - the arm is probably OK now

...and I understan it. What's then the meaning of my sentence?

I left you a file - ...?
I have left you a file - ...?

Marius Hancu, 1 yr 197 days ago
 present perfect: recent events, last hours or so
Goodman  +  504919 Thu, 24 Apr 08 04:57 PM

Hi,

Present perfect can be used:

1)    To describe something coming into being or materialized some time in the past and still exists.

I have quit smoking since January 1st his year. This means I am still refraining from smoking. The effort to quit is still in affect.

But if you say “I quit smoking 5 months ago” in past tense, it carries a connotation that you may have returned to the nasty habit.

 

To describe an event or action which has been carried out with or without a reference of time.

 

Have you been to Paris?

Yes I have been to Paris, twice in fact, once on Honeymoon and once on leisure.

 

Inflation has affected all of us but hit particularly hard on the poor.

Hope this helps, if I didn't confuse you further!(;)) Wink

Damir  +  504949 Thu, 24 Apr 08 06:53 PM
No, you didn't confuse me. I think I'm getting it.

So, for my example will be something like this...
I left you a file... - I left it in the past and most probably or it's certain that it can't be found anymore
I have left you a file... - I left it in the past and it's still there.

...but I don't understand a part with "I have done". What's is the meaning if there's "I have done" and what if it's "I did"?
Does it mean that I made something and it still exists if it's used "I have done", and if it's "I did" that it doesn't exist anymore? Then the sentence doesn't have any sense, because I can left something that doesn't exist. Could you please explain me that?

ganesh77  +  504951 Thu, 24 Apr 08 07:00 PM
I did my homework yesterday. (use the past tense because the action is completed and a time reference is given)

I've done my homework. (use the present perfect tense to show the action has been completed but no time reference is given) 

I've done my homework. (use the present perfect tense to show the action has been recently completed, and the evidence of completing the homework can be seen here and now)

In informal spoken English, people don't always follow these rules.

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The principle which now replies I don't know what was there a hundred years back, the same principle also says that it was unaffected when the whole universe was destroyed....
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