pleasehelp  +  942393 Wed, 14 Oct 09 10:11 PM I already joined a league.- Simple past I've already joined a league.-  Present perfect What's the difference between these two sentences because they mean the same thing in my mind.  pleasehelp Joined on Sun, Sep 20 2009 Regular Member 614 Difference Between, Present Tenses, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Sentences, Simple Tenses

	Clive  +  942399 Wed, 14 Oct 09 10:13 PM Hi,   There's not much difference because the word 'already' gives the statement relevance to the present.   Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,582 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo Present Tenses, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Simple Tenses

	pleasehelp  +  942468 Wed, 14 Oct 09 11:27 PM But are the tenses used correctly? pleasehelp Tenses, Present Tenses, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Simple Tenses

	dimsumexpress  +  942535 Thu, 15 Oct 09 12:53 AM Hi Plesehelp, Maybe this scenario can shed some light:   In the office coffee room:...   A: (pouring a cup of coffee while talking to B) I've heard that someone in the company has started a hiking club.   B: Oh! you didn't know! It's Paul, the manager in shipping. I joined his club last month. Sam and Mary in accounting.   A: If I had known that earlier, I would have joined you guys. I like the outdoor.   B: Paul has mentioned that he would like to keep the memebership under 12. You may want to contact him now before someone takes the spot.   This scenario pretty much covers the questions you have postedso far.   Present perfect - used when the context has no past time marker. (yesterday, a years ago, last week, this moring etc). i.e. I have seen the movie twice already.   Simple past - used to convery a simple thought / event already happened. Mom! Susan ate my pizza. It rained here yesterday. I had nothing to do, so I went to a  movie.             dimsumexpress Joined on Mon, Oct 12 2009 Full Member 273 Present Tenses, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Context, Speaking, Chat, Friendships, Simple Tenses

	Clive  +  942544 Thu, 15 Oct 09 01:12 AM Hi, But are the tenses used correctly?   Yes, they are.   Clive Clive Tenses, Present Tenses, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Simple Tenses

	pleasehelp  +  942546 Thu, 15 Oct 09 01:15 AM dimsumexpress “A: If I had known that earlier” This part is past perfect tense because of 'earlier' right?  If I had known earlier which states that if this person had known before so it uses the past perfect? pleasehelp Tenses, Present Tenses, Past Perfect, Simple Past, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Simple Tenses

	dimsumexpress  +  942625 Thu, 15 Oct 09 03:11 AM You are partially right. This is actually a past condition pattern. If I had + past particple, I would have + past particple.   If I had listened to my parents few yers ago to finsih my engineering school, I wouldn't have created all these problems for myself. (the fact is, you are having problems in your personal life because you didn't listen)   Another pattern is: Had I listened to my parents, I wouldn't have created all these problems..     dimsumexpress Present Tenses, Simple Past, Universities, Present Perfect, Past Tenses, Students, Simple Tenses, Schools