How to pronounce yorkshire and all place with shire endings?!

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Guest  #80344  Fri, 11 Mar 05 07:19 AM
And why Edingburgh (BURGH) is pronounced as Edinburra not edinburgh (like pittsburg)? tq :p
  
nona the brit  #80387  Fri, 11 Mar 05 12:28 PM
Hi, that's just English for you, some people are still arguing about the pronounciation of some place names here!

The 'shire' parts of the counties are pronounced 'sheer' hence York'sheer', Lincoln'sheer' etc.
  
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Guest  #80417  Fri, 11 Mar 05 02:21 PM
what about Edinburgh? why it is pronounced as 'burra' not burg like Pittsburg? Just asking :p
  
nona the brit  #80470  Fri, 11 Mar 05 05:28 PM
Well, Edinburgh was there first so you could ask why isn't Pittsburgh pronounced burra instead of burg!

I'm not sure why exactly. British names can be quite strange as Britain has been settled by a large number of different races and groups at different times, so place names often reflect a large population in the past from another country, with another language. Everything just blended into modern English. Place names are where this sort of thing is most noticable. For example 'chester' endings (as in Colchester, Chester, Manchester) usually show that it was an important settlement in Roman times.

Don't forget that Edinburgh is in Scotland, so it is probably the correct Scots/Gaelic pronounciation, which was/is a different language to English. This part is copied from a website by a lady called Dorothy Dunnett: Place names in Scotland are made up of elements from a number of different languages - Gaelic, Norse, Brithonic, Scots and Anglian. Gaelic names are common over much of the country with Norse being often seen in the north and west. Brithonic is seen in the south-west and in the north-east areas, often where the Picts were found, while Scots and Anglian are seen in the Lothians and Borders which were under Northumbrian control until the formation of the territory we know as Scotland in the 11th century

  
amahmood  #80649  Sat, 12 Mar 05 03:41 PM
For not british people (like myself) the pronouciation of many British name is odd since we are used to American names and worse than that as nona the brit pointed out are the scottish names.

for example "Ian" is a person's name. I will be very surprised if a person can pronouce it correctly without having listened to it first.

  
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x.mehrdad  #80650  Sat, 12 Mar 05 04:02 PM
Hello Mahmood,
Once you get into that(British vernaculars, and accents) God knows that you can spend the rest of your life on them, so pull out, if you can. Cheers.
  
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Guest  #82589  Sun, 20 Mar 05 08:04 PM
I seriously think worcestershire should be spelt wustasheer...it would make life a lot easier and keep people from thinking im mad when they ask me where im moving and i say "whorecestershiier"
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abbie1948  #87974  Thu, 07 Apr 05 11:56 PM
If you wanted to spell Worcestershire it would have to be wusstushu (schwa)
  
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Hope that helps. Abbie
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