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Pronunciation of Old English "hlafmaese"
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Magu  #133266  Fri, 02 Sep 05 07:21 PM

Hi,

If someone could help me with this word, I'd be grateful. A sound file would be wonderful, but phonetic spelling (example: HELL-oh for Hello) would also work fine.

Thanks!

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LanguageLover  #133471  Sat, 03 Sep 05 02:21 PM

Welcome to the Forums, Magu.

I know nothing about old English pronunciation, but this site may help you in case there is nobody here familiar with that area: http://pages.unibas.ch/anglist/schiltz/data/oe_pronunciation_en.swf
  
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Pemmican  #133554  Sat, 03 Sep 05 08:21 PM
What does "hlafmaese" mean btw?! (Just out of curiosity...)
  
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Anonymous  #133961  Mon, 05 Sep 05 12:51 AM

Hi LL,

The site (which looks like it originates in Switzerland?) doesn't come up for me...I tried pasting it in the browser, but no luck. Can you tell more about it, please?

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Anonymous  #133963  Mon, 05 Sep 05 12:54 AM

Hi Pemmican,

It has to do with some research I'm doing. "In England, August 1 was known as Lammas (from the Old English hlafmaese, "Loaf Mass"). In thanksgiving for a plentiful harvest, the faithful brought bread made from the first sheaves of grain to church for a blessing.

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CalifJim  #133987  Mon, 05 Sep 05 03:03 AM
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/OEsteps/pronounc.html

From this site, it appears that the pronunciation is

LLAFF-mazzeh

where "LL" is as in Welsh (sometimes described as unvoiced "L"), the first "A" is as in "swan", the second "a" as in "cat", the final "eh" as "e" in "bed".

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Pemmican  #134876  Wed, 07 Sep 05 10:02 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

Hi Pemmican,

It has to do with some research I'm doing. "In England, August 1 was known as Lammas (from the Old English hlafmaese, "Loaf Mass"). In thanksgiving for a plentiful harvest, the faithful brought bread made from the first sheaves of grain to church for a blessing.

magu

 

That is interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!

 

Btw: I'm pretty sure, the "h" should also be pronounced (I expect a sound equal to the German "ch") - doesn't your source say anything about that?!
  
LanguageLover  #135877  Sat, 10 Sep 05 10:44 AM

Hi Pemmican,

You're right about the sound, "niht" in Old English is pronunced as "nicht" in German. But if you look at the site that I provided you can see other options of "h" pronunciation. However, unfortunately "hl-" was not covered at that page, but it is exactly as CJ mentioned in the link he inserted. (Hope you enjoy listening to the Old English sounds!)
  
Anonymous  #139400  Mon, 19 Sep 05 07:22 PM

Thanks, CalifJim!

magu
  
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