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Monalisatuan
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Sun, 03 Feb 08 09:24 AM
Hi Goodman,
I'm surprised when you say there is no such thing as annual leave in the US. Please find below excerpts from Kentucky Personnel Cabinet and from the Office of Human Resourses Management under the US Department of Commerce:
Annual Leave
" All full-time employees receive annual leave as a state work benefit. Part-time and Interim employees do not earn annual leave. Your length of service will determine the amount of annual leave you earn in a calendar year......"
"The first rule to remember about annual leave is that you must always get advance approval from your supervisor before taking annual leave....."
Leave
Annual Leave
Purpose
Annual leave is a period of approved absence with pay from official duties. It is intended to allow the employee vacation, rest and recreation. It is also intended for the employee's use in attending to personal or emergency business, to extend the time available to the employee under some other leave programs, .....
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Anonymous,
1 yr 297 days ago
Clive wrote: | Hi Redke,
Is this in India?
Is it paid leave?
Does it include what in Canada we would call vacation time?
Best wishes, Clive |
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nope. It is Malaysia. The leave is a paid leave and I'm not sure whether it is equivalent to Canada's vacation time. Roughly the entitlement average would be 15 to 30 days per year.
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Clive
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Sun, 03 Feb 08 04:19 PM
Hi,
It sounds to me like what in Canada we would usually call 'vacation'. But if 'leave' is the common term where you live, then obviously that's the term that should be used.
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Anonymous,
1 yr 296 days ago
Monalisatuan wrote: | |
Hi Goodman,
I'm surprised when you say there is no such thing as annual leave in the US. Please find below excerpts from Kentucky Personnel Cabinet and from the Office of Human Resourses Management under the US Department of Commerce:
Annual Leave
" All full-time employees receive annual leave as a state work benefit. Part-time and Interim employees do not earn annual leave. Your length of service will determine the amount of annual leave you earn in a calendar year......"
"The first rule to remember about annual leave is that you must always get advance approval from your supervisor before taking annual leave....."
Leave
Annual Leave
Purpose
Annual leave is a period of approved absence with pay from official duties. It is intended to allow the employee vacation, rest and recreation. It is also intended for the employee's use in attending to personal or emergency business, to extend the time available to the employee under some other leave programs, .....
REgards
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This is one good example which sometimes paints a wrong picture for the foreign learners. State workers are government empoyees which are protected by the unions. Annual leave is one of those protections and perks workers in private sectors don't have. Most government employees don't know much about efficientcy and competition as those in private sectors . If you don't believe me, try to go to any government agency for service ! In a real world of workplace, there is no such thing as annual leave. As I had informed you, there are other leaves only granted under special situstion but it's not "annual ". What we have as "annual" is a vacation which most companies offer to their employees, usually 2 weeks for the first two years and increase one day per year to three weeks at the 5 year mark.
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Grammar Geek
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Mon, 04 Feb 08 02:21 AM
Anonymous wrote: | | What we have as "annual" is a vacation which most companies offer to their employees, usually 2 weeks for the first two years and increase one day per year to three weeks at the 5 year mark. |
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That is a HUGE over-generalization. I have worked in many companies, and not ONE of them worked that way.
Two weeks to start with an automatic increase to three weeks at 3 years. Or at 5 years. Or 3 weeks to start, with an increase to 4 weeks at year 7. Or ... whatever, but not once did it go up by one day per year. Some places will start you with the entire vacation allotment on January 1, and some make you earn at a rate of 10 days/26 pay period so the balance goes up each pay period.
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rishonly
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Mon, 04 Feb 08 02:35 AM
Clive wrote: | |
Hi guys,
On reading the posts in this part of the Forum, I get the idea that the term 'leave' is in common use in India for this kind of letter. If that's true, it seems OK to use it in letters written by and to Indian people.
Perhaps some person from India would like to comment on this?
Best wishes, Clive
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Hi Clive,
Your observation is correct. The term 'leave' is very common in India, and people will be reluctant to use the term 'vacation'. I would say it boils down to the workplace culture, and managers in our country often wouldn't want their employees go on vacation since the term 'vacation' singnals that the employees are going to travel for pleasure.![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
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Monalisatuan
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Mon, 04 Feb 08 11:21 AM
Hi all !
In many countries like mine , "I have submitted a request for vacation " is quite different from "I have submitted a request for annual leave " The former indicates that you are going to travel for pleasure while the latter indicates that you want to take time off just because you are entitled to have 12 days ,15days or 30 days off per year .The number of days off varies from country to country and depends on the length of service of the employee.. You can use your annual leave for travelling , attending to your personal business , visiting relatives ect.In general , you can use your annual leave to do anything you like .
So in this situation I think it’s proper to use Clive's sentence:
Dear Sir,
I've applied for 2 days of annual leave via the ESS system, and would appreciate it if you could approve it.
Yours sincerely,
Regards
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Clive
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Mon, 04 Feb 08 01:16 PM
Hi,
Here's the basic system in Canada. The time off that you are entitled to each year is commonly called 'vacation time'. The term 'vacation' does not necessarily suggest travelling, but rather leisure. You might just stay home and watch TV for two weeks.
Your boss is not entitled to know what your plans are for your vacation, and does not really care. You are entitled to the time, no matter what your plans are. However, you do have to consult with your boss as regards when you can take the time during the year.
If you want to go to a wedding, or visist your sick uncle, you typically do this by using a few days from your vacation allowance.
As we have discussed earlier, different countries apparently have different systems, so people should write letters based on the system in use in their particular country.
Best wishes, Clive
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Monalisatuan,
1 yr 296 days ago
Ok , I agree with Clive
Best wishes
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