In which pudding is there chocolate?

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Anonymous  #174749  Mon, 26 Dec 05 11:51 PM

In which pudding is there chocolate?

a. The pudding tastes like chocolate.

b. The pudding tastes of chocolate.

  
Philip  #174774  Tue, 27 Dec 05 12:51 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

In which pudding is there chocolate?

a. The pudding tastes like chocolate.

b. The pudding tastes of chocolate.

Both are common, but I hear 'like' more often.
  
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Ikia  #174781  Tue, 27 Dec 05 01:29 AM

I agree with Philip,but if you have to come up with one answer, I'd say b., The pudding tastes of chocolate.

If you say something is LIKE something else, then it's NOT it, but LIKE it. So chocolate probably isn't in the pudding that tastes LIKE chocolate.

However, if the pudding tastes OF chocolate, then it's chocolate that one tastes in the pudding, not something like chocolate.

You're really deciding whther the pudding is LIKE chocolate or OF chocolate. In that sense, b. may be the better choice.

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CalifJim  #174811  Tue, 27 Dec 05 03:48 AM
Taste is very subjective.  Neither pudding necessarily contains any chocolate whatsoever.

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paco2004  #174821  Tue, 27 Dec 05 04:30 AM

I believe the questioner has already read this linguistic article. It says:

A final criterion is that different PP predicative complements drive different kinds of interpretation. A predicative LIKE PP drives an epistemic interpretation, as (12a) shows. A predicative OF clause is not epistemic, it is purely evidential as the example in (12b) shows.
   (12 a). The pudding tastes like chocolate (but it isn’t).
   (12 b). The pudding tastes of chocolate (!but it isn’t).
The reason for the difference between these two different PPs is that LIKE is a predicate of comparison, whose arguments may be concrete or hypothetical, whereas OF here denotes the composition of the pudding – chocolate must be part of the pudding in (12b).

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CalifJim  #174826  Tue, 27 Dec 05 05:02 AM
Interesting.  It seems the author is saying that when I say the pudding tastes of chocolate, I am saying that I can taste in it the chocolate which I know to be in it.

Sadly, when I say the pudding tastes of chocolate, I am saying that I taste something in it that may be chocolate or something like chocolate.  I am saying that I taste the taste of chocolate, regardless of the source of this taste.

It's probably a dialectal thing.

CJ

  
Anonymous  #174861  Tue, 27 Dec 05 07:58 AM
The "of" version says that there is chocolate and not the "like" version.
  
Anonymous  #174865  Tue, 27 Dec 05 08:10 AM
The questioner has not read that article. The questioner was given the problem by his teacher. Thanks for the source though. Do you agree with the conclusion in it?
  
Anonymous  #174867  Tue, 27 Dec 05 08:13 AM

<Interesting.  It seems the author is saying that when I say the pudding tastes of chocolate, I am saying that I can taste in it the chocolate which I know to be in it.>

Note that the author's statement is modal (must) and not categorical.

  
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