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mathewzhao  +  547320 Mon, 28 Jul 08 09:52 AM
   The grammer books say 'the' has 2 kinds of pronunciation.I always have a  puzzle,when I read a sentence from to right,for example,
   The apple is red.
   I  first see the word 'The',but I can't affirm its  pronunciation.I have to look at the second word 'apple',then I will look at 'The' again.,and will

know how to pronunciate 'The'.(Because a['apple']  is  a vowel  )
  I feel the pronunciation of 'the' is so complicated,so I want to know native speaker how to affirm  'the'  pronunciation at the different

situations(for instance,the apple,the pen)?

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Mister Micawber  +  547420 Mon, 28 Jul 08 02:22 PM
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Hello Mathew, and welcome to English Forums.

The 2 pronunciations of 'the' are not grammar rules, but physical effects of the smooth flow of sounds between words-- they are more like laws of physics.  Native speakers (lucky us!) do not have to affirm pronunciations-- we just talk without thinking.  However, I can tell you that in the native mind, the definite and indefinite articles are mostly already attached to their nouns, so that they are conceived and produced with a single thought.  This kind of conversation is common:

A:  I see you've got a pear for lunch.
B:  A what?
A:  A pear.
B:  Oh no, that's the apple you gave me this morning.
A;  The what?
B:  The apple-- you remember?
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yizhivika  +  547602 Mon, 28 Jul 08 09:04 PM
Hi Mathew,

Yes, as Mister Micawber says, native English-speakers instinctively know which pronunciation of 'the' to use before a noun (or an adjective + noun), but I can see that it may be a problem for some people learning the language.

As you have yourself noted, we generally use the 'thee' version before a vowel  (as in 'the apple'), and the "theh' version before a consonant (as in 'the pen'), and the reason native English-speakers know which version to use, is because they read (or think of) the two words together, not separately!

From your name, I would guess that your mother-tongue is probably Mandarin Chinese (Ni shi zhong guo ren ma?), and if so, then you'll know that there's sometimes a similar situation in Chinese with tones (e.g. 'bu' meaning 'not' is normally pronounced as a fourth tone, but changes to a second tone when followed by another word that is pronounced with a fourth tone), and the only way you know which tone to use is by thinking of the two words together, not as individual characters.

By the way, there is an exception to the general rule of pronouncing 'the' as 'theh' before a consonant, but it's a special case, as the 'the' is being used less as a definite article, and more like an adjective. For example:

"Beijing is the (pronounced as 'thee') place to be this August!" (because of the Olympic Games!).
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yizhivika  +  547661 Mon, 28 Jul 08 10:59 PM
Edit: for  'be problem' read 'be a problem',
   and for 'the the "theh"' read 'the "theh"'.

Thanks!

[Now corrected in the original post]
Zerox  +  547870 Tue, 29 Jul 08 09:02 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about your problem. The more you just use the language, the more you gain confidence and, thus, make fewer of those kinds of mistakes. Once you get a firmer grasp of the language you pronounce 'the' automatically correct in order to maintain the normal flow of speech. What is more, native people will have no trouble understanding you if you make this mistake; they've heard it all, I'd think.
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Anonymous, 203 days ago
I have honestly never heard these rules and I am a native speaker. most people I know say either thee or thah which ever way they like to pronunce the. I use thah unless I am going for emphasis on a word like "The ONLY" in that situation I use thee, because I think it makes it stand out from my regular speech. Honestly you could use either one.
Anonymous, 187 days ago
In general, "the" is pronunced "thee" when it preceeds a word beginning with a vowel or the letter "h" which is silent.

"Thee apple", "thee honest person", but "the house", or "the harbour"

However, there is no real rule, it is merely a means of making the words flow better.

I wouldn't be too concerned about it, thought.  Nobody is going to shoot you for saying

The apple instead of Thee apple.  In fact many people wouldn't even notice.


Anonymous, 127 days ago
It has always been my understanding, that "the" should be pronounced with a LONG E before a vowel and a SHORT E before a consonant. However, lately, I hear only the short sound used. This applies to new broadcasters and others who do public speaking. When did "THE" transition occur and where was I?

 

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Mister Micawber  +  805182 Sat, 04 Jul 09 01:10 AM
It has never been a rule; it is only a tendency of spoken word flow.  Many individuals pronounce 'the election' clearly enough without /i:/, especially in the case of rapid speakers.
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