Mme000  +  243233 Thu, 06 Jul 06 12:44 PM We have a doubt about the position of the "deputy" word in the job title for our business cards. For instance, which it the correct one between "R&D Deputy Director" and "Deputy R&D Director"? Thanks in advance, mme000 Mme000 Joined on Thu, Jul 6 2006 New Member 02

	Grammar Geek  +  243278 Thu, 06 Jul 06 04:16 PM  Gino76 wrote: "Deputy Director, R&D" My vote goes here too. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,665 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	nona the brit  +  243446 Fri, 07 Jul 06 09:34 AM Hmmm. I wouldn't take Deputy Director, R&D to mean that you were DD of just that department. I would assume you were a DD of the entire company and just working in the R&D dept. Ony R&D DD would mean to me that you were Deputy Director of that specific department only. Perhaps it depends how the company is set up. Possibly British company law is different to yours. The whole idea of a deputy director is strange to me - you are either a director or not in Britain. You can't really be a deputy one. nona the brit Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004 England Veteran Member 11,713 The name says it all.

	Mme000  +  243554 Fri, 07 Jul 06 06:58 PM  Nona The Brit wrote: Hmmm. I wouldn't take Deputy Director, R&D to mean that you were DD of just that department. I would assume you were a DD of the entire company and just working in the R&D dept. Ony R&D DD would mean to me that you were Deputy Director of that specific department only. Perhaps it depends how the company is set up. Possibly British company law is different to yours. The whole idea of a deputy director is strange to me - you are either a director or not in Britain. You can't really be a deputy one. Nona The Brit, thank you for your answer, but the Deputy Director it's not me. Anyway, how do you call someone who is the "second-in-command" of the R&D Director? I think that "R&D Vice Director" sounds really bad. Mme000

	Grammar Geek  +  243669 Sat, 08 Jul 06 06:03 AM Nona, that's interesting. Here, it's much more common to put your title, then a comma, and then your department. I'm Manager, Corporate Communications. My boss's boss is Vice President, Communications. Would it be more natural to you that I be Corporate Communications Manager? Deputy Director says clearly to me that you report to the director as his second in command - although (now that I think about it) it could be that the director is the head of everything, and she has a deputy director for R&D, another deputy director for operations, another deputy director for sales, etc. That's how it works in a lot of government positions, though some get quite silly - assistant deputy director for the under secretary of X. In any case, do NOT break up deputy and director with the R&D between it. Grammar Geek Commas

	nona the brit  +  243721 Sat, 08 Jul 06 09:58 AM Yes I'd be happier with Corporate Communications Manager. (and I'd also be happy with Deputy R&D Director!). You also get Director of Corporate Communications. In the UK we tend to use Assistant rather than Deputy or vice. nona the brit