abbie1948  +  92183 Thu, 21 Apr 05 02:54 PM I disagree, Rasmusq. "Cockney" is a very specific accent, and is not the same as EE, and at no time has Cockney been spoken by everybody. abbie1948 Joined on Thu, Mar 24 2005 England Senior Member 2,657 Hope that helps. Abbie Accents, Pronunciation

	nayeem19  +  93381 Mon, 25 Apr 05 09:10 PM Cockney speakers always omit the ' t ' . EE speakers only omit the t when it is at the end of a word , or in between vowels , never in between consonants . EE speakers also leave out the ' l ' in ' vulnerable ' , or ' itself ' . They also pronounce the ' l ' of a word like a ' w ' . For example , ' techinal college ' is pronounced as ' te?nicaw cowwege " by EE speakers . I have heardly listened to a pure EE speaker though . nayeem19 Joined on Thu, Apr 14 2005 New Member 25 Vowels, Consonants, Pronunciation

	Stephiee  +  119630 Tue, 19 Jul 05 06:41 PM will you tell me if i have got it? vul-ner-a-ble = "Vohnabowhe" It-self = "itsehwf" E-mail = "emayowh" reduce = "rejuice" "th".= f (for most words not all) "L" = owh (usually at the end or middle of words but not in beging)  "Actually" = Akchewie "brush"= bwush (?)   i fink i got it no? email if you wana help me or get help from me Stephiee Joined on Tue, Jul 19 2005 USA New Member 02 -inferno dolly- My forum (come join!) www.waketodie.proboards45.com/index.cgi Pronunciation

	LeicesterLad  +  140332 Wed, 21 Sep 05 07:28 PM You often hear these days that Estuary English is "taking over" in the UK.  I think this is overplayed.  We have a few very visible TV personalities at the moment who speak EE - Jonathon Ross, Jamie Oliver, Robert Elms etc, and it seems to be a "trendy" accent in the media, but I don't notice it becoming a widespread way of talking throughout the UK - I live in the north east and regularly visit family in the midlands.  The Manchester accent was all the rage a few years ago, but we're not all saying "mad fe'rit" now. There is possibly a slight "converging" of Brtish accents - inevitable with national media,  but I don't think they're converging into EE.  Regional accents will go on for a long time yet. LeicesterLad Joined on Fri, Sep 16 2005 N E England (Orig from Leicester) Junior Member 81 Accents, Pronunciation