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CalifJim  #503714  Tue, 22 Apr 08 06:37 AM
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irregular verbs are not a big problem for learners
Speak for yourself.  Try learning Italian, for example!  Smile

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Kooyeen  #504535  Thu, 24 Apr 08 12:11 AM
LOL, I see MrP had trouble understanding the new standard spelling Big Smile
In fact, that was a joke... It is pretty difficult to read, because no one is used to that kind of spelling. This pretty much demonstrate that not even such a change would be possible in practice. You could teach children that way, but what would adults do? It wouldn't be possible in practice, if you wanted to try. So English will remain this way... and maybe in 1000 years it won't have anything to do with the way it's written!

@Jim: Well, I was referring to English verbs... Italian verbs? Yeah, you have to learn how to conjugate them all, so it's a pain in the neck. Wink Thank God I learned it naturally, because it seems so complex to me that  I don't think I would be able to learn how to speak Italian as a foreign language.
  
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MrPedantic  #504536  Thu, 24 Apr 08 12:16 AM

I don't think I would be able to learn how to speak Italian as a foreign language.

When in doubt, use a regular synonym.

(How often do you need to say "I strove", "I sought", and so on? And when you do, you can say "I did my best", "I looked for", etc. instead.)

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Anonymous  #504764  Thu, 24 Apr 08 12:08 PM

<(How often do you need to say "I strove", "I sought", and so on? And when you do, you can say "I did my best", "I looked for", etc. instead.)>

 

How often do you need to say "it was a marvelous party" and not "it was a great party"?

  
MrPedantic  #505018  Thu, 24 Apr 08 10:34 PM
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<(How often do you need to say "I strove", "I sought", and so on? And when you do, you can say "I did my best", "I looked for", etc. instead.)>

How often do you need to say "it was a marvelous party" and not "it was a great party"?



That merely relates to vocabulary. There is no difference in grammatical difficulty between "it was a/an <adjective> party" and "it was a/an <adjective> party".

However, according to your earlier posts, there is a great difference in difficulty between "He <regular verb: past tense> the XYZ" and "He <irregular verb: past tense> the XYZ".

An ESL learner can avoid this grammatical difficulty by using the regular verb "look for" instead of the irregular verb "seek".

MrP

  
Anonymous  #505215  Fri, 25 Apr 08 07:39 AM

An ESL learner can avoid this grammatical difficulty by using the regular verb "look for" instead of the irregular verb "seek".

 That may be, but I'll bet that, even so, many many teachers will still want the student to learn the whole list of irregular verbs

  
MrPedantic  #505488  Fri, 25 Apr 08 10:47 PM
I'm sure teachers have done stranger things to their students; and vice versa.

MrP
  
Anonymous  #506418  Mon, 28 Apr 08 10:41 AM

Keep your secrets to yourself. Big Smile

  
CalifJim  #506824  Tue, 29 Apr 08 01:44 AM
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When in doubt, use a regular synonym.
Mr. P.!!! I am shocked.  Are you trying to put us all out of business?  Smile
  
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