Stillwater436  +  367493 Sat, 19 May 07 02:01 PM Hey guys, which one of the two phrases below is proper and  more commonly used if both are good? If they are both good English, any difference between them? 1) The relationship between translation theories and translation teaching. 2) The relation between translation theories and translation teaching. Any help would greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Stillwater436 Joined on Wed, Nov 30 2005 New Member 04 Difference Between, Translation

	Cool Breeze  +  367686 Sat, 19 May 07 10:07 PM Hi Stillwater I would use relation in your sentence. Relationship usually refers to an emotional or other connection between people or a connection by blood or marriage. CB Cool Breeze Joined on Fri, Apr 7 2006 Senior Member 3,979 "I hope you'll all live to be 150 years old - and the last voice you hear is mine!" Frank Sinatra on stage in Oslo, Norway, 28 September 1991 Marriage

	Grammar Geek  +  367790 Sun, 20 May 07 04:50 AM Oh, that's interesting, CB. I would have said "relationship." Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,683 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Cool Breeze  +  367877 Sun, 20 May 07 09:46 AM  Grammar Geek wrote: Oh, that's interesting, CB. I would have said "relationship." Hi GG By all means, please do! The information in my previous post is from the Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, but it may lag behind times. I'm all for all kinds of freedom, variety and colorfulness in language - any language. Cheers CB Cool Breeze Grammar

	Kathrin  +  369063 Tue, 22 May 07 11:37 PM Here is a sentence from my English magazine: There is no relationship between beeing a good parent and speaking English. At first I was convinced the sentense is wrong but in light of your dispute it makes sense. Relation were my word of choice but no. Last remark: the speaker is from the USA. Kathrin Joined on Fri, May 11 2007 Full Member 152 Is it me or is it the universe? It could be the universe but I am not sure thus I have been still wondering and drinking tea. However, the tea is getting cold. Tenses, Speaking English

	Pchuang  +  369252 Wed, 23 May 07 09:08 AM the suffix -ship in English always implies a certain quality associated with the word it connects. for instance: friend and friendship: the former indicates a role of a person as in "he is a friend of mine". the latter emphasizes on the feeling of friendly affection. in real life we may well have many friends yet only a few can offer friendship. craftsman and craftsmanship: one may be a craftsman but not necessarily possesses craftsmanship. leader and leadership: you can see too many leaders who have no leadership at all, which includes vision, courage, charisma and spiritual quality. i think you have got the picture. a relation may or may not have the relationship, so to speak. the two words have their own emphasises. Pchuang Joined on Sat, Nov 5 2005 Full Member 198