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Anonymous  +  306773 Sat, 23 Dec 06 11:35 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am an American doing some research for a book I am writing and wondered if you could give me some input. I hope you don't mind me using this forum to do that. I just discovered your wonderful site today.

For both the teachers and Scandinavian speakers out there, how difficult is it for a Danish native speaker to learn English? And what are the reasons why one immigrant (from Denmark) would learn English so well that he or she would have a barely discernable accent, and another person from the same country for about the same number of years retain a very heavy accent so that it is difficult at times to understand him? The person with difficulties came to the USA many years ago, in the early 1900s, with no English skills at all.

It may be a naive question, but I am trying to understand the reasons for this person's difficulty: is it simply a matter of individual differences? And if so, what makes one person "better" than another in learning a language than another? Is it wiring in the brain? Or could it be that there are other things at work like a speech impediment that goes beyond simple language issues (the person in question had difficulty with "R's" for example, pronouncing them like "W's")

Thanks very much! Any input would be much appreciated. Happy Holidays, Everyone.

Regards,

Laura

Cool Breeze  +  307803 Wed, 27 Dec 06 05:12 PM
Hi Laura

As you don't seem to get any answers from Danes, I'll offer you one from a Finn.

It is easier for a speaker of a Germanic language to learn any other Germanic language. Danish -  or Old Norse, or Old Scandinavian  -  is one of the languages English derives from. English grammar is easy for a Dane to learn because it is a simplified version of Danish grammar. A lot of the vocabulary is also familiar.

There are differences in people's ability to learn foreign languages, just as there are differences in their ability to learn their native language. You will have noticed that not all Americans speak English as well as you? Not all have a knack for math, and some could never sing the national anthem on key even if they practiced for weeks. All people look different; what makes you think they should be  exactly alike in language acquisition?

In very rare cases is a speech impediment or something similar involved, but of course even that is a possibility.

Cheers
CB
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Musidora  +  307841 Wed, 27 Dec 06 07:55 PM

Hi CB,

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it! Very interesting about the Danish grammar, this is helpful! 

About the other issue related to accents--you are absolutely right, we are all very different and some people are just not as good at learning other languages. I definitely don't expect everyone to be the same, the world would be a pretty boring place! :-) I am one of the types that could never manage the National Anthem-- I guess I may qualify as being tone deaf!

I suppose what intrigues me is what is going on physically in the brain or body that accounts for the accent differences? Why does one person retain an accent perceived by others as thick and hard to understand while another person barely keeps their original accent? I am not sure if that can question be answered here or anywhere, for that matter, but I thought I would ask. I really appreciate it, and have a very Happy New Year!

Regards,

LAura

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Cool Breeze  +  307901 Wed, 27 Dec 06 10:47 PM
 Musidora wrote:

I suppose what intrigues me is what is going on physically in the brain or body that accounts for the accent differences? Why does one person retain an accent perceived by others as thick and hard to understand while another person barely keeps their original accent?


Hi Laura

You have a happy new year too. Unfortunately I am not able to answer the above questions. I do hope, though, that you'll get some answers from Danes as well.

Cheers
CB
Forbes  +  309094 Sun, 31 Dec 06 01:55 PM

 Anonymous wrote:
 what are the reasons why one immigrant (from Denmark) would learn English so well that he or she would have a barely discernable accent, and another person from the same country for about the same number of years retain a very heavy accent so that it is difficult at times to understand him?

The most significant factor is likely to be the age when the person arrived. The younger you are the less difficuty you are likely to have.

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Anonymous, 2 yr 325 days ago

Thanks Forbes, good point about the age. The person in question arrived in the U.S. in 1916, when he was 29 years old. Also, since he lived in a Scandinavian enclave in Brooklyn, this would have provided a refuge from the language issues that would  further handicap him and slow his progress.

Happy New Year to everyone!

Regards,

Laura

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