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Rotter

#414954 Thu, 06 Sep 07 10:52 AM

I beg someone to look at my latest question.

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#415628 Fri, 07 Sep 07 08:45 PM

I beg someone to look at my latest post.
It is a bit unclear about the way to judge the main clauses and the subordinate clauses.
I thought I knew everything perfectly when it comes to the clauses. After reading the comments made by Doll, I know I make mistakes.
So I urge someone to look at my latest post.

Rotter

Clauses

Please read my sentence and suggest correction...

Doll

#415633 Fri, 07 Sep 07 08:57 PM

Rotter wrote:
Doll

I am a bit confused by your explanation about main clauses and subordinate clauses.

I know very well a main clause is a clause which can stands itself as a meaningful sentence.

You wrote the following:
Is it correct to say he/she is rheumatic?    Here, "Is it correct to say" asks the question. The other thing, I mean, "he/she is rheumatic is a subordinate clause which explains the main clause.

He is rheumatic OR She is rheumatic are complete sentences thus they can stand itself as complete meaningful sentences. So they are main clauses.

The words ' is it correct to say ' do not make sense; thus they can't stand as a meaningul sentence. So the words ' is it correct to say ' are subordinate clause.

Let us take another simple example:

If I have the money, I will buy a new car.

The words ' I will buy a new car ' is the main clause here because those words together make a meaningful sentence and they can stand itself.---yes you are right.

If I have the money ... [ These words do not make a sensible sentence; so this is the subordinate clause.]
Please correct me if my understanding is wrong. --you are right

Let us take another example:
1. I trained 90 minutes yesterday.
2. I trained yesterday.
   [ I am training at a gym 3 times a week.]
My first and second sentences are meaningful ones. --yes.

3. When I trained yesterday, I talked to a girl who works as a neurosurgeon.
     [ I know her very well. She comes direct from the theatre to train. We often
   talk about cancer aspects because she removes brain tumour.]

In the third example, the words 'When I trained yesterday' do not make a complete thought. So it is the subordinate clause. yes

The words ' I talked to a girl who works as a neurosurgeon' are the main clause. ---yes.

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.   As for my explanation. I will look over it for you.

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Rotter

#415642 Fri, 07 Sep 07 09:26 PM

Thanks Doll for taking time to reply me again.

I was confused the way parsed the following sentence:

Is it correct to say (that) he/she is rheumatic?

You told me the words 'he/she is rheumatic' is the subordinate clause and the words ' Is it correct to say' is the main clause.

The words 'he/she is rheumatic' is a complete thought.
Therefore I think it is the main clause.

The words ' Is it correct to say ' do not make a complete thought.
Therefore I think it is the subordinate clause.

I am a bit confused by the way judged the sentene in question.
You told me the group of words which ask the question is the main clause.

I have learnt one should judge the main clauses and subordinate clauses on the basis of the dependence. I mean if the group of words can stand alone and make a sensible sentence, those words are the main clause. I must confess that I am no expert in English grammar.

I have no difficulty in understanding what you have explained to me except this particular sentence.

Rotter