Nathananise  +  209560 Sat, 25 Mar 06 06:39 PM COuld someone explain the difference and the function of the "a", to me? also, arouse, and arise..... thx Nathananise Joined on Sat, Mar 25 2006 HongKong New Member 18 The art of losing is not hard to master Even losing you, the joking voice, the gesture that i love I shan't have lied, the art of losing isn't hard to master though...

	Pemmican  +  209592 Sat, 25 Mar 06 09:12 PM Hello Nathanise, the answer is not that difficult for wait/await: "wait" simple means "being in a condition of waiting" and it's intransitive, while "await" is a kind of "forced waiting" and usually transitive. I.e. when you say "I wait", it means you're waiting for somebody (maybe for a meeting), if you say "you await...", then you're not precisely waiting for somebody, but for something you're going to get from that person. This object needs to be added in the sentence as well: examples: I wait for my wife (= We wanted to meet here, but she hasn't appeared yet) I await my wife's call (= She wanted to call me ( => I'm waiting for a call, not for my wife in person), but she hasn't rung yet). I can't help you out with rise/arise here, though, but I'm not a native speaker, maybe I could provide a hint for somebody else?! All the best -Pemmican Pemmican Joined on Thu, Aug 21 2003 Regular Member 569 Wâ mag ich mich nu vinden? wâ mac ich mich nu suochen, wâ? nu bin ich hie und bin ouch dâ und enbin doch weder dâ noch hie. wer wart ouch sus verirret ie? wer wart ie sus...

	Clive  +  209593 Sat, 25 Mar 06 09:16 PM Hi, Could someone explain the difference and the function of the "a", to me? It seems to me that the 'a-' form focuses on the completion of the activity. You can say 'the water is rising' but it sounds odd to say 'the water is arising'. After I knelt in front of the Queen so that she could knight me for helping people with their English grammar, she wanted me back on my feet, so she said 'Arise, Sir Clive'. Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,650 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo Grammar, English Grammar

	paco2004  +  209645 Sun, 26 Mar 06 03:16 AM Hello I like this kind of question. To know the sense of prefixes is useful for us ESL students to understand the sense of the words. The prefix "a-" in "arise" is a Germanic prefix and gives a sense of "up" or "away" that stress the sense of the main part of the word. So "arise" is "rise up". The "a-" in "awake" and "abide" also carries this sense. The prefix "a-" in "await" has a different story. Both of "await" and "wait" originally come from the same Old French word "waitier" (=wait or watch). The "a-" in "await" came from Latin "ad" and "ad-V" meant <become into the state of V> or <be in the state of V>. So "await" is <be in the state of "wait">. The prefix "a-" of this sense is used in "amuse", "amount", "agree", "attend", "avenge", "acknowledge", etc.. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English. Prefixes

	Welkins2139  +  209682 Sun, 26 Mar 06 08:18 AM rise usually means " get higher', come/go up    ex. housing prices keep rising. arise means " begin', 'appear'   ' come to one's notice' it is used mostly with abstract nouns as subjets.       ex. a discussion arose about the best way to pay. arouse is often used with an abstract word as an object. ex. when he kept saying he was working late at the office, it began to arouse her suscipious. arouse can also be used in a sexual sense.   guys are aroused by the pictures of naked girls. Welkins2139 Joined on Sun, Oct 9 2005 Full Member 414 Determination, Dedication and Devotion! Nouns, Abstract Nouns