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My Celine  +  128881 Sat, 20 Aug 05 01:33 PM

What is the difference between rock and stone?

In my native language, they are more or less the same in meaning.

So I am very confused.

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davkett  +  128885 Sat, 20 Aug 05 01:44 PM
These are generally interchangeable terms.  Even when used as idiomatic for a gem like a diamond, called 'a stone' or 'a rock'.  'Gemstone' is not idiomatic.  You won't normally hear 'Gemrock'.
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khoff  +  129036 Sat, 20 Aug 05 10:30 PM

I think if you are talking about a building or sculpting material you would be somewhat more likely to use "stone" - The statue was carved out of stone; there was a stone wall around the property.  If you pick up a rock/stone on the beach, you can use either word.

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Clive  +  129068 Sun, 21 Aug 05 01:14 AM

Hi,

Although I don't live in the UK anymore, I'd say that there are differences between BrE and AmE.

To me, a stone sounds smaller than a rock. In BrE, you have a stone in your shoe. In AmE, you have a rock in it.

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davkett  +  129072 Sun, 21 Aug 05 01:37 AM
Yeh, Clive, the other day I told my wife I found the Rosetta stone in one of my hiking boots.  She said I must have rocks in my head.
TeacherJoe  +  129086 Sun, 21 Aug 05 03:30 AM
 Clive wrote:

To me, a stone sounds smaller than a rock. In BrE, you have a stone in your shoe. In AmE, you have a rock in it.

Hi Clive,

Perhaps there are regional differences within North America as well. Growing up in the northeastern United States, I never heard anyone say they have a rock in their shoe. Rock sounds larger to me, too.

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MrPedantic  +  129133 Sun, 21 Aug 05 08:43 AM

Interesting.

I think we have 'gemstone' in BrE. This is how I hear the other words – do AmE/CanE ears differ?

1. 'That wall is solid rock' – a geological feature.

2. 'Stone walls do not a prison make', 'heart of stone' – 'stone' is the material.

3. 'I picked up a rock' – suggests something large, and perhaps quite rough.

4. 'I picked up a piece of rock' – suggests something rough and irregular, that derives directly from a geological feature (e.g. a cliff).

5. 'I picked up a pebble' – suggests something small, smooth, and with a regular rounded shape. 

6. 'I picked up a stone' – suggests something smaller, and perhaps quite smooth, though with an irregular shape.

Also 'boulder' – a very large piece of rock, that derives directly from a geological feature; perhaps quite shapely.

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davkett  +  129187 Sun, 21 Aug 05 01:05 PM

MrP, from the American side of Niagara Falls--

Your nos. 1 - 6:  all familiar.

Then--

rock hound, rock climber, rock candy, bedrock, sheet rock, rock band, rock drawings

and,

The Rock:  http://visibleh20.com/ipw-web/b2/index.php?p=275

versus--

stone mason, stone cold, stone jar, Stone Age, stoned

and,

The Stones:  http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/celebrity/images/Rock/stones-grooves.JPG

Clive  +  129341 Sun, 21 Aug 05 10:38 PM

Hi Mr.P,

All of the above sound normal in CanE, to me. Other off the cuff ramblings and idioms about rock/stone:

Let he who is without sin among you 'cast the first stone'

Rock of ages

A headstone on a grave

Stone the crows (although rock the boat, ha-ha) Maybe in BrCanE.

stone cold

a stone killer (because he has a heart of stone, I suppose)

dead as a stone

get blood from a stone

a rock, to suggest that a gem-stone like a diamond is very big

a rolling stone ... (the USA has a beer called Rolling Rock)

Clive

 

 

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