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Is Roman Catholicism the same thing as Christianity?

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Sanz  #138749  Sun, 18 Sep 05 06:30 AM

The centre of Catholicism is Virgin Mary who's been duplicated in lots of Virgins all around the world.

The centre of Christianism is Jesus.

  
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Aesthete  #139860  Tue, 20 Sep 05 08:12 PM
How about this. All Roman Catholics are Christian BUT not all Christians are Roman Catholic. Roman Catholicism is one of the many Christian denominations that we have today.
  
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davkett  #139898  Tue, 20 Sep 05 11:01 PM

Yes, Aesthete, that's what I meant.  The original question was whether Roman Catholicism was the same as Christianity.  I took that to be asking whether the terms were interchangeable, which is why I've said 'no', because it appears to leave out all the others:  Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Eastern Orthodox, Congregationalists, Pentecostalists, Episcopalians, etc., etc., etc.-- all all the subdivisions of these.

 

 

  
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monfrancom  #351971  Tue, 17 Apr 07 12:02 PM
Hi Conus Lotus

Is Roman Catholicism the same thing as Christianity? you ask...

The strict answer is no.  Roman Catholocism is a christian faith.  Christianity encompasses all faiths that profess Jesus as Christ, the son of God. Hence, christ- ianity.

 "Catholic" is from its close hebrew word meaning "universal".  Men being men, a first shism occured after a couple/few hundred years when the Catholic orthodox church first came into being with its own head of church.  JP II made some memorable amends with them during his pontificat.

Not knowing all of others, I remember Luther's 96 "arguments" in the early second quarter of the1500s which started the Lutheran church.

I always get the Anglican church's debut and Protestant church's mixed up.  The latter, I believe, came about after Ann Bolyn (bad spelling?) 's not bearing a son for good old Henry the 8th.  The king seperated from the Catholic church to permit, and justify, his divorce/seperation so he could wed someone else... to bear him a son. That be the Protestant church.  The Anglican church has a High Anglican church and a Low Anglican church.  The latter, I believe, is the closest in doctrine to the catholic church.

The Baptist church is also another "christian" church.

There are strict rules about recongnizing "churches" as being christian.  I only know about that without knowing what they all are, but believing in Jesus, the Christ, is one of them.

Word came out of Australia about a month or less ago about "talks" between the protestant church and the "catholic" church to "reunite".  The catholic bishop that was quoted in the article insisted that they were only talks.

But there is a strong euchumenical movement, at least here in Canada.  A coming together of all these denominations of christianity in worship.  The hope is to create greater ties.
  
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David  #353325  Fri, 20 Apr 07 09:36 AM
Christ is the centre of the Catholic faith. Mary is his mother and she is asked to intercede for us. As one asks anyone to pray for one's needs.I regularly pray with members of other denominations and consider it a great blessing. There is more in common than one realizes.
  
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Stannum  #358541  Tue, 01 May 07 01:04 PM

Roman Catholicism is a Christian sect.

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Alexa For Australia  #358603  Tue, 01 May 07 02:33 PM
 Stannum wrote:

Roman Catholicism is a Christian sect.

Stannum

The first Christians were in fact followers of a Jewish Rabbi.

Christianity is a split up section of Judaism.

Alexa

  
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Stannum  #358783  Tue, 01 May 07 09:18 PM
 Alexa For Australia wrote:
 Stannum wrote:

Roman Catholicism is a Christian sect.

Stannum

The first Christians were in fact followers of a Jewish Rabbi.

Christianity is a split up section of Judaism.

Alexa

G'day Alexa,

Too true.

Christianity is a Jewish sect.

See ya mate,

Stannum

  
monfrancom  #363942  Sat, 12 May 07 04:50 PM
 Stannum wrote:
 Alexa For Australia wrote:
 Stannum wrote:

Roman Catholicism is a Christian sect.

Stannum

The first Christians were in fact followers of a Jewish Rabbi.

Christianity is a split up section of Judaism.

Alexa

G'day Alexa,

Too true.

Christianity is a Jewish sect.

See ya mate,

Stannum




Hi Stannum and Alexa

Sorry, this is incorrect to say that Catholism is a "sect" of judaism or of christianity!  It is inconceivable and demonstrates a disregard of terms.  It could have been described as such during its first century or so of existence 2 000 years ago... (http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Church-sect_typology) but I would argue that based on the fact that Jesus professed something "new" rather than simply opposing its predecessor.  For those familiar with the Sermon on the mount, one could argue... except that the theology expressed in that text is one that shows a God of love... as opposed to the vengeful one ascribed to by the jewish faith.

Catholicism is an officially recognized religion with its own fundamental beliefs which are  n o t  at all the same as judaism.  Anyone in the "know", even just a little bit, would state this.  For adherents of christiannity, Jesus Christ is God/son of God, etc.  At best in judaism, Jesus may attain the status of "prophet".  And this recongnition was further down the road of history, not in the first centuries.  Catholism "is" a religion because of  Jesus Christ.  No Jesus, no catholism.  Judaism's central figure is Yahweh, and as Jesus came    l  o  n  g    after the existence of the Torah, I am hard put to believe that there would be references to Jesus in it.  Someone who has read the Torah could maybe inform us.  Anyway, for a jew, it is absolutely blasphemous... surely worthy of "excommunication" if jews put this in practice, to even "think" of God being "man"!!!  A jew is not even to say the word "Yahweh" as God is to great to be reduced to a "name". (I do hope that I am not offending anyone in speaking this way.)

Definition of religion: See http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Religion
Definition of sect: See http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Sect to understand the "derogatory" element in the use of "sect" that you statements imply.  And as the beginning of this article shows http://www.bookrags.com/essay-2004/6/10/65743/2167, one can understand why some would interchange the term "sect" and "religion".

What is absolutely (for me) astounding is the fact that Roman Catholicism is at the same time a political and geographical reality. See http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Country where the concept of coutry is explored and see http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/List_of_countries for a list of countries in which is named Vatican City.  The head of the catholic church, the pope, is also the head of a state: the Vatican which is also an officially recongnized country.  It has diplocatic ties with other countries throughout the world.  The "type" of ambassador they send to another country determines the relationship held with that country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion#Shi.27a_Islam informs the reader about religion and state.

...if you believe in it, it is a religion or perhaps 'the' religion;
and if you do not care one way or another about it, it is a sect;
but if you fear and hate it, it is a cult
." Leo Pfeffer
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cults.htm

I do not profess a faith or practice any type of religion.
  
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