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Latest post Wed, Mar 5 2008 4:27 PM by Dew 2007. 24 replies.
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Lawyee  +  484140 Sun, 02 Mar 08 07:12 PM
 Hi Russian citizens. I've heard that the presidential elections took place this weekend in your country. In Europe they are commented like a theatre-everybody knows who is going to win, nevertheless the government still tries to force as much people as possible to vote-because of the impression that the new president was elected by all Russians. This is the impression of your elections I got from European medias. What is your point of view? I guess it would be differentSmile Did you vote?
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Ruslana  +  484151 Sun, 02 Mar 08 07:35 PM

Well, I didn't vote since I knew that Mr Medvedev would win anyway, so why should I have spent my time on this useless diversion?.. Stick out tongue

On the other hand, during this election company I didn't notice any strong forcing to vote. I began thinking that something weird was taking place since they did't make so much agitation as before. Or maybe I didn't notice that all for I hardly watch the TV these days. Big Smile

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Lawyee  +  484162 Sun, 02 Mar 08 08:02 PM
Ruslana

Well, I didn't vote since I knew that Mr Medvedev would win anyway, so why should I have spent my time on this useless diversion?.. Stick out tongue

 

I hope I would never say these words, they seem to be a resignation of political engagementSad

Is it good that Russians think this way? 

Dew 2007  +  484164 Sun, 02 Mar 08 08:11 PM
Well, I voted for Medvedev, You are right in a way - he was sure to win, since there was no other  good candidate. 

In fact nearly none in the country (who cares for its future) wants to change the course of things. The chosen way really seems to be the best, though there are a lot of problems, we still go forward (not backwards).

Maybe there will be something in future... but today's stability is much better than  throwing the country back to chaos. (This is perhaps what some western media are looking forward to) I think that the results will reflect the real state of things and preferences among the people.

That's why there was no need  to force anyone to vote. Though we were strongly requested to come and give our votes to the candidate we think best.

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Lawyee  +  484183 Sun, 02 Mar 08 08:44 PM
 Did you think the same about Mr Medvedev (being the right man to lead the country) before president Putin chose him as his successor? I am not offending you, I just want to know how popular was he before being appointed by Putin and how it influenced people that he was chosen by Putin.
Dew 2007  +  484312 Mon, 03 Mar 08 07:41 AM
 

Medvedev was one of the candidates long ago. So we had a good deal of time to see what he looks like. And maybe I really thought him better than the other candidates. Perhaps he is not as good as Putin, still he is not as bad as Zyuganov or Zhirinovsky. (To say nothing of Bogdanov). 

He is quite reliable and I don't think there will be many changes (if any) in the country and its policy.   

 

Ruslana  +  484380 Mon, 03 Mar 08 10:20 AM
Lawyee
“I hope I would never say these words, they seem to be a resignation of political engagementSad

Is it good that Russians think this way?”

Good for whom? The good and the bad are relative conceptions. What is good for a lion is bad for an antelope. Wink

Resignation of political engagement? I didn't say I refuse to participate in political life of the country. If a strong competition of candidates had been supposed to happen, surely I would have gone to give my vote to someone I prefer. But now I really think it could be a waste of time.

Dew
“Though we were strongly requested to come and give out votes...”

This morning I heard in the news that some foreign mass media wrote Russians had been forced to vote, as it was in the USSR. I don't know whether people were forced to do something in the USSR (I was too little yet to remember anything like that), but what I know now - no one stood close to our doors with a rifle 'forcing' us to vote. It was a choice of every citizen whether to go or not. (It's quite amusing sometimes to know how foreign mass media interpret information.)

Lawyee  +  484440 Mon, 03 Mar 08 12:36 PM
Ruslana
“(It's quite amusing sometimes to know how foreign mass media interpret information.)

 

This was actually the reason why I started this thread-to get YOUR point of view.

Is it good for democracy that people resign (or refrain) from using their political right to vote as the only real expression of their sovereign power in state? Actually, I think that European media show this image because there is a strong feeling here that Russians are moving somewhere else from the political system which is established in Europe (maybe they are only moving to their natural political system after years of chaos).

Maybe we Europeans are amusing for you, Russians, as well - we need a strong competition in political field to create checks and balances between the powers who want to control the state. We have problem to believe that a single strong person can be the best one to rule the country. (okey, maybe it was more my attitude than attitude of all EuropeansWink) Do you still feel democratic if you have just one choice to choose?

I said I would be afraid if I would gain a feeling that there is no reason to vote because after all, one person will surely win. For me, it would seem that my vote is useless and I have lost my part of sovereignty-that I don't create the state anymore and the state is not dependant on my vote anymoreSad

Once again, is it good for ME or YOU not to vote? 

Dew 2007  +  484503 Mon, 03 Mar 08 02:47 PM
The fact is that the Western democracy has undergone different way. And the mentality of the Europeans (and of Americans even more) is quite different. The Russians may seem unpredictable to you, but we sometimes don't understand your way of thinking. Your politicians try to teach us their democracy... They think that we are now living under dictatorship. But I am free to say whatever I think, I can share my opinions with you in the net.

Still we for example, don't understand the approach to Kosovo problem where all the international laws are violated.

I just remembered a joke about yesterday's elections in Russia: Zhirinovsky might have won if half of the people hadn't voted at all (believing that Medvedev would have won all the same) and the other half of the people would have decided to vote for Zhirinovsky, just for fun.

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