Senior; Junior / First, Second... (comparatives?, superlatives?, both?)

Hello Anon,

Your post really isn't related to the prior questions, which are also quite old, so it's best to start a new thread.

As I undestand it, a "Jr" doesn't become a "II."

If John Paul Jones has a son, Steven Jones, and Steven Jones names HIS son John Paul Jones, then, the grandson is Joahn Paul Jones, II.

Jr. stays Jr all his life, I believe.

Absolutely, if Thomas Edison Smith names his OWN son Thomas Edison Smith, then the son is "Jr.," and remains Jr. his entire life.

But you can have a "second" (II) if it's not a direct father son relationship, as with the John Paul Jones example.

I don't think so. I've only known a few "Juniors" in my life and only one "III." I think I did know a II once who was named for his grandfather. I think "old money" people do this more than most people.

(By the way, for anyone still reading, someone who is a III will often have "Trip" as a nickname.)