Sentence analysis

1 2
   Share on Facebook  
Yoplain  #267431  Fri, 15 Sep 06 01:50 PM

Here is a sentence I've found:

'I would never talk crap about my own kind doesn't matter how bad they are.'

I don't know whether the one who said this is a native speaker or not. But assuming that this sentence is correct, am I understanding it correctly as follows?

No matter how bad they are, { I would never talk crap about ['my own kind doesn't matter'] }

What I don't understand is : is it possible to put another sentence after 'about'?

  
Not Ranked
Joined on Sat, Aug 12 2006
New Member (13)
Marius Hancu  #267440  Fri, 15 Sep 06 02:15 PM
No, that is a bad re-arrangement.

The correct translation is:
No matter how bad my relatives (i.e. my own kind) are, I will not speak badly about them.

my own kind could also mean my friends, my group, my fellows, those associated with me.

  
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on Wed, Apr 26 2006
Montreal, Canada
Veteran Member (11,673)
Proficient Speaker
Yoplain  #267556  Fri, 15 Sep 06 05:19 PM

Oops, thank you for correcting it.

Then doesn't matter how bad they are. = no matter how bad they are?

And

Doesn't matter how bad my relatives (i.e. my own kind) are, I will not speak badly about them.

No matter how bad my relatives (i.e. my own kind) are, I will not speak badly about them.

Are these two sentences exactly the same?

  
Inchoateknowledge  #267569  Fri, 15 Sep 06 05:55 PM
Doesn't matter how bad my relatives (i.e. my own kind) are, I will not speak badly about them.

Doesn't hinges on which subject -- 'it'?
this sentence is false -- you can not ellipt the subject  in  indicative mood.

"
No matter how bad my relatives are, I will not speak badly about them." correct

"(It is) (n)o matter how bad my relatives (i.e. my own kind) are, I will not speak badly about them."
  
Top 50 Contributor
Joined on Wed, May 3 2006
Senior Member (2,537)
Beep! Beep! :)
Yoplain  #267678  Fri, 15 Sep 06 11:13 PM

Okay, thanks for correcting me again.

But I'm a bit confused here. I think I missed something important.

 

'I would never talk crap about my own kind doesn't matter how bad they are.'

Is this senence right or wrong in the 1st place?

If this one is wrong, I have no problem understanding your answers, but if it is right, what makes it different from my wrong sentence Inchoateknowledge pointed?

  
Goodman  #267689  Fri, 15 Sep 06 11:31 PM
 Yoplain wrote:

Here is a sentence I've found:

I don't know whether the one who said this is a native speaker or not. But assuming that this sentence is correct, am I understanding it correctly as follows?

No matter how bad they are, { I would never talk crap about ['my own kind doesn't matter'] }

What I don't understand is : is it possible to put another sentence after 'about'?

This is my opinion to your question:

'I would never talk crap about my own kind doesn't matter how bad they are.'

I would never talk badly about my own kind. [It] doesn't matter how bad they are. 

The problem I see is that this can't be a single sentence as appeared and [it] is missing from the sentence.

  
Top 50 Contributor
Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005
Calif. USA
Senior Member (3,247)
The name says it all!
Grammar Geek  #267695  Fri, 15 Sep 06 11:42 PM

The sentence is wrong.

I would never talk crap [badly] about my own kind. It doesn't matter how bad they are.

  
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006
Pennsylvania, USA
Veteran Member (16,098)
ModeratorProficient Speaker
Barbara, who answers in American English.
Clive  #267698  Fri, 15 Sep 06 11:48 PM

Hi guys,

'I would never talk crap about my own kind doesn't matter how bad they are.'

A slightly different perspective is to realize that this is bad grammar. It's a run-on sentence. It should be written as

'I would never talk crap about my own kind. It doesn't matter how bad they are.'

(Please don't say the word 'crap' when you are sitting at my dinner table)

Best wishes, Clive

  
Top 10 Contributor
Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004
Canada
Veteran Member (22,568)
ModeratorTeachers
El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo
Goodman  #267701  Fri, 15 Sep 06 11:59 PM
 Grammar Geek wrote:

The sentence is wrong.

Hi GG,

Can you elaborate?  Is it the green, pink or the blue part? I'd like to know.

I would never talk crap [badly] about my own kind. It doesn't matter how bad [ it is] they are.

  
1 2
AddThis Feed Button RSS Feed: ESL General English Grammar Questions
© 2008 MediaCET Ltd.
Terms and Conditions & Terms of Service