Sentence & Phrase

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Ben9108

#415140 Thu, 06 Sep 07 06:52 PM

I would be grateful if someone help me to explain whether the following sentence are correct.

1. Testing for the system is still outstanding.(Sentence)= Testing for the system outstanding. (Phrase)

2. Labeling for the equipment is missing. = Labeling for the equipment missing.

How to present in correct phrase patten if wrong?

Ben9108

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Clive

#415198 Thu, 06 Sep 07 10:34 PM

Hi,

I would say this.

1. Testing for the system is still outstanding.(Sentence) - Testing for the system (Phrase)

2. Labeling for the equipment is missing. (Sentence) - Labeling for the equipment (Phrase)

I don't know what you mean by 'present in correct phrase pattern'.

Best wishes, Clive

Clive

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Ant_222

#415210 Thu, 06 Sep 07 11:16 PM

Sorry for interrupting, but I think Ben meanas shortened sentences like:

«Seven minutes left» — «Seven minutes are left»
«Function declaration missing» — «Function declaration is missing»
«File not found» — «A File was'n/haven't been found»
and so on. And they're are still sentences not phrases (for they have a subject and a verb).

Though in your examples, Ben, I thinks this way of shortening won't work "for the reasons of style"...

For it to work the sentence must be somewhat urgent:

> word.exe v_letter.txt
> ERROR: File not found

And I'd like to consult Clive about the "for" in «Testing for the system»

What does it mean? Is it "testing of the system"?

I understand "testing for alcohole" which actually is "testing for the presence of alcohole", but I can't connect it with the discussed example.

Thanks in advance.

Ant_222

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Goodman

#415219 Thu, 06 Sep 07 11:46 PM

Ben9108 wrote:

I would be grateful if someone help me to explain whether the following sentence are correct.

1. Testing for the system is still outstanding.(Sentence)= Testing for the system outstanding. (Phrase)

2. Labeling for the equipment is missing. = Labeling for the equipment missing.

How to present in correct phrase patten if wrong?

Hi Ben,

1. Testing for the system is still outstanding.(Sentence)= Testing for the system outstanding. (Phrase)

This is not a valid equation, nor a correct phrase. If I understand you correctly, I think you meant to say: pending, or incomplete, which is a completely different usage as in “the test result is outstanding” which means beyond expectation.

2. Labeling for the equipment is missing. = Labeling for the equipment missing. I am puzzled! Except for the missing “is”, both are the same. My guess is, you wanted to say “The equipment is missing the labeling , didn’t you?

Goodman

Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005

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Ben9108

#415256 Fri, 07 Sep 07 01:13 AM

I meant how to convert the complete sentence to phrase. Would you help me?

Ben9108

Grammar Geek

#415265 Fri, 07 Sep 07 01:37 AM

Which part of the sentence did you want to make into the phrase? You can have a noun phrase, a verb phrase... what is the point of the exercise?

Grammar Geek

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Barbara, who answers in American English.

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Clive

#415269 Fri, 07 Sep 07 01:52 AM

No-one seems to have a clear idea of what you are trying to do.

Let's take a much simple example.

Tom is running. Is 'Tom running' the phrase that you want?

And I'd like to consult Clive about the "for" in «Testing for the system is still outstanding.»

What does it mean? Is it "testing of the system"? Yes. The 'for' suggests that there is some 'obligation' to test the system, that the system needs to be tested.

With regard to the word 'outstanding', if something is 'outstanding', it can mean that it has not yet been dealt with, is not yet completed.

eg 'Tom's bill is outstanding' means that Tom has not yet paid it.

Best wishes, Clive

Clive

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