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Hela

#226990 Fri, 19 May 06 07:11 PM

Dear teachers,

Is my analysis of these sentences correct ?

1) Benjamin Franklin proposed the turkey as the official bird of -the United States rather than the bald eagle.

- B. F. = subject
- proposed = complex transitive verb
- the turkey = direct object
- as the ... eagle = object complement ?

is "as" a prepostion here?

2) I worked with him to gain some experience in the field.

- I = S
- worked = monotransitive verb ?
- with him = prepositional phrase "him" object of the preposition "him" ?
- to gain....field = adverbial of purpose.

3) Her latest book is printed in colour. S V A(m) ?

- her latest book = S
- is printed = intransitive verb
- in colour = adverbila of manner ?

Thank you for your help.

Hela

Hela

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Mister Micawber

#227119 Sat, 20 May 06 03:11 AM

I agree on all points:

1) Benjamin Franklin proposed the turkey as the official bird of the United States rather than the bald eagle.

- B. F. = subject -- Yes
- proposed = complex transitive verb -- Yes; I am not familiar with 'complex' here; do you mean the 'proposed as...rather than'?
- the turkey = direct object --Yes
- as the ... eagle = object complement ? -- Yes

is "as" a preposition here? -- Yes: 'I worked as a doctor'. 'The doctor, as a specialist, recognized all the symptoms.'

2) I worked with him to gain some experience in the field.

- I = S -- Yes
- worked = monotransitive verb ? -- Yes
- with him = prepositional phrase; "him" object of the preposition "with" ? -- Yes
- to gain....field = adverbial of purpose. -- Yes

3) Her latest book is printed in colour. S V A(m) ? -- Yes

- her latest book = S -- Yes
- is printed = intransitive verb -- Yes
- in colour = adverbial of manner --Yes

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Hela

#227188 Sat, 20 May 06 09:06 AM

Good morning Mr Micawber,

- proposed = complex transitive verb -- Yes; I am not familiar with 'complex' here; do you mean the 'proposed as...rather than'?

Whenever an object is followed by a complement, Quirk & Co. call the verb "complex-transitive".

By the way do you know what is an "adverbial complement"? Somebody told me that "as the... eagle" could be one. What do you think?

Thank you for the correction Big Smile [:D]

Hela

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Mister Micawber

#227251 Sat, 20 May 06 02:33 PM

Complex-transitive-- ah, yes: SVOC or SVOA. Found it, thanks. I really ought to sit down and read the first chapters of that book. I seem to spend all my time searching through the vast reaches of Chapter 8.

Adverbial complements? Chapter 16 section 24: The kitchen is downstairs. Jill looked as if she had seen a ghost.

It seems to me that as the official bird of the United States fits too well into the model of prepositional object complement (16.47) to be considered anything else. But then there is rather than the bald eagle-- does that modify bird or proposed?

Mister Micawber

Hela

#227403 Sun, 21 May 06 07:33 AM

Dear Mr Micawber,

Adverbial complements? Chapter 16 section 24: The kitchen is downstairs. Jill looked as if she had seen a ghost.

It seems to me that as the official bird of the United States fits too well into the model of prepositional object complement (16.47) to be considered anything else.

Now I'm totally confused! Would you mind explaining to me what is the difference between:

a) an object complement

b) a prepositional object complement

c) an adverbial complement ?

But then there is rather than the bald eagle-- does that modify bird or proposed?

Unfortunately I not in position to answer your question myself. I'm not an expert yet Embarrassed [:$]

Thanks a million,

Hela

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Mister Micawber

#227441 Sun, 21 May 06 01:00 PM

1-- As I see it:

a) an object complement-- is a word or phrase that, well, complements the object: I find George ridiculous.

b) a prepositional object complement -- is one form of object complement, in which the complement is a prepositional phrase: I find George out of his mind.

c) an adverbial complement -- An adverb used (usually?) with the copula: George is back.

(In your and my examples, I see as in 'as the official bird' as a preposition, and as if in 'as if she had seen a ghost' as a phrasal subordinator.)

2-- Let's not worry about that now, then, shall we?

Mister Micawber

Verbs, Prepositions, Adverbs

Hela

#227489 Sun, 21 May 06 03:51 PM

Dear Mr Micawber,

One more question, please (as usual Embarrassed [:$] ). In his grammar book does Quirk name verbs that are either followed by a direct object and a complement or by a direct object and an adverbial : complex-transitive verbs ? I rephrase in case I'm not being clear enough.

Verbs that are followed by a "DO" and a "Co" are called complex-transitive;

AND

Verbs that followed by a "DO" and an Adverbial are called complex-transitive too ?

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Hela