The_Star  +  137229 Wed, 14 Sep 05 09:46 AM Just follow what your conscience say to you about this. For me, no sex before marriage. Sex is only a small part of love i think. There are many things greater and more important than that. The_Star Joined on Mon, Aug 15 2005 Indonesia New Member 31 Marriage

	adomi  +  137256 Wed, 14 Sep 05 11:24 AM Well Forbes, a person reading you would say:"This is a typical guy's reaction". and, The_star seems to be the exception that will confirm that rule. Anyway, you made you point very clear. adomi Joined on Thu, Nov 4 2004 Bangladesh/Cameroonian Regular Member 609 "Practice makes perfect" Marriage

	Na!tSabeS  +  137457 Wed, 14 Sep 05 11:01 PM Even if I prefer sex with the girl/woman I love, I agree with FrozenSmile that there is absolutely no problem having sex without love, given that - as she said - "both participants are aware that it is just casual sex". Na!tSabeS Joined on Sun, Sep 4 2005 Hamm, Germany Junior Member 54 Hope is a waking dream. To love is to receive a glimpse of heaven. Marriage

	Forbes  +  137488 Thu, 15 Sep 05 03:05 AM  Adomi wrote: Well Forbes, a person reading you would say:"This is a typical guy's reaction". Possibly, but as a gay man the question in fact has little relevance for me. I know there is a lot of talk about gays getting married, but there's not a lot of discusion about whether they should save themselves for the right man. Actually I think the notion that women should save themselves is part of the desire of a lot of men to control women's sexuality. Men are in this respect quite irrational. They expect to play the field and then want to marry a virgin. Of course if unmarried men keeping away from women encourages them to have sex with each other I'm all for it. Forbes Marriage

	Forbes  +  137629 Thu, 15 Sep 05 12:06 PM  Anonymous wrote: May I ask why you would encourage men to have sex with men? This seems quite perverted to me. Is it the encouragement or the sex you find perverted? Forbes Marriage

	Clive Woodward  +  137679 Thu, 15 Sep 05 02:27 PM Users please note; This is an English forum. It is not a place to encourage sexual practices, whatever they may be. Clive Woodward Joined on Mon, Nov 17 2003 Veteran Member 242 Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity Marriage