New2grammar  +  542086 Tue, 15 Jul 08 11:56 PM What's sex outside marriage? extra-marrital sex or extra and pre marital sex? Thanks. New2grammar Joined on Tue, Nov 21 2006 Veteran Member 7,676 Who wants to go sailing around the world with me?

	Goodman  +  542092 Wed, 16 Jul 08 12:04 AM Depends on your point of view.. To some, it's called a little fun, spicing up a little. To some, it is called infidelity, cheating. To couples who are swapping partners, it's call "swinging". So which one are you? Goodman Joined on Mon, Nov 7 2005 Senior Member 3,816 The name says it all!

	Mr Wordy  +  542093 Wed, 16 Jul 08 12:05 AM To me it means having sex with someone while you're not married -- either to them or to anyone else. I wouldn't use the term to refer to a married person having sex with someone other than their spouse, and "pre-marital sex" does not seem an exact synonym because that implies you are going to marry your partner at some point in the future (which may not be the case). Mr Wordy Joined on Tue, May 27 2008 Senior Member 2,359 Native British English speaker Synonyms

	Goodman  +  542097 Wed, 16 Jul 08 12:12 AM ===>What's sex outside marriage? extra-marrital sex or extra and pre marital sex? If I picked up the context correctly, it it's inferring to situation within a marriage. Goodman Marriage

	Mr Wordy  +  542112 Wed, 16 Jul 08 12:43 AM New2grammar “So swinging and cheating are examples of sex outside marriage?”   To slightly revise my earlier reply... I think that you can understand this phrase literally -- to mean sex with someone to whom you are not married, irrespective of whether you are married to someone else. However, the phrase is often trotted out when discussing moral issues surrounding sexual behaviour, and this is the context that came to my mind first. In this common context, I take it to exclude "cheating" because it's usually a "given" that cheating on one's spouse is not to be condoned. Mr Wordy Grammar, Whom, Marriage

	New2grammar  +  542114 Wed, 16 Jul 08 12:52 AM Sorry if I still don't get it. Here's what I understand from your replies. Literally, the phrase means pre-marital AND extra-marital sex. However, it's commonly used to describe non-extra marital sex (cheating). To me, that is pre-marital sex. New2grammar

	Mr Wordy  +  542122 Wed, 16 Jul 08 01:18 AM New2grammar “ Sorry if I still don't get it. Here's what I understand from your replies. Literally, the phrase means pre-marital AND extra-marital sex. However, it's commonly used to describe non-extra marital sex (cheating). To me, that is pre-marital sex ” I think you're less confused than me on this one, so I gracefully bow out. I hope someone else can nail it! Mr Wordy Grammar