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Avangi  #508022  Thu, 01 May 08 06:43 AM

I think the difference is:   This is the third time tonight I have drunk a glass of beer.  I'm actually clicking off three different past actions in the one sentence.  In my original sentence, the sentence only mentions one action.   It's the same structure as saying, "That was the worst beer I drank tonight."  Hmmm.  This is getting interesting.  "This is the worst beer I have drunk tonight, up till now."?  So you say since I drank it in the past we must use past perfect?

  - A.

Edit.  Hey,  a thousand pardons.  I must go to work.   Later.

Yoong, do you think this should be a separate thread, or is it old hash?  I'm still confused.  When a phone rings isn't it always in the past, unless you use progressive, "The phone is ringing"?  "The phone rings" is a stage direction, or a special narrative style. Right?

 

  
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Yoong Liat  #508956  Sat, 03 May 08 01:57 PM

Avangi

I think the difference is:   This is the third time tonight I have drunk a glass of beer.  I'm actually clicking off three different past actions in the one sentence.  In my original sentence, the sentence only mentions one action.   It's the same structure as saying, "That was the worst beer I drank tonight."  Hmmm.  This is getting interesting.  "This is the worst beer I have drunk tonight, up till now."?  So you say since I drank it in the past we must use past perfect?

  - A.

.Yoong, do you think this should be a separate thread, or is it old hash?  I'm still confused.  When a phone rings isn't it always in the past, unless you use progressive, "The phone is ringing"?  "The phone rings" is a stage direction, or a special narrative style. Right?

 

When a phone rings isn't it always in the past. No, it can in the present perfect.

As I said earlier we can say 'This is the second/third/fourth ... time the phone has rung.

 

  
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