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Janissary  +  229904 Sun, 28 May 06 03:15 PM
 Anonymous wrote:
 Mythical Lady wrote:
No Religion shouldn't be separated from politics.

and yes again "the government mustn't choose for us" what religion to follow but they must choose the best for us I mean the best legislation for our life..

I don't understand these 2 statements. If religion is not separated from politics, then how is it that you can be sure that the government would not choose for you what religion to follow? As I understand it, in Afghanistan a person was threatened with death for not following the state-sanctioned religion.

If you cut the words or sentences like a journalist you cannot understand Anon. The two were different cases from different views, as she said from the very beggining. Had you read the rest instead of focusing on the sentence you would have understood better.

Mythical Lady wrote

"No Religion shouldn't be separated from politics. And notice here I'm not talking about any religion but from an Islamic veiw. Because I can't speak of something I'm ignorant of i.e the legislations of both Christianity and Judism."

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Salman`  +  229929 Sun, 28 May 06 04:33 PM
 Janissary wrote:
 Anonymous wrote:
 Mythical Lady wrote:
No Religion shouldn't be separated from politics.

and yes again "the government mustn't choose for us" what religion to follow but they must choose the best for us I mean the best legislation for our life..

I don't understand these 2 statements. If religion is not separated from politics, then how is it that you can be sure that the government would not choose for you what religion to follow? As I understand it, in Afghanistan a person was threatened with death for not following the state-sanctioned religion.

If you cut the words or sentences like a journalist you cannot understand Anon. The two were different cases from different views, as she said from the very beggining. Had you read the rest instead of focusing on the sentence you would have understood better.

Mythical Lady wrote

"No Religion shouldn't be separated from politics. And notice here I'm not talking about any religion but from an Islamic veiw. Because I can't speak of something I'm ignorant of i.e the legislations of both Christianity and Judism."


cut the words like a journalist means???? I do not write without reading previous posts, I repeat only sentence again and again which have common sense, what I write is, the people, the politians wheither they are muslims, christians or jews, If they believe on the Creater, why don't follow the laws of the Creater simple. Because I've been hearing from them, they responce or announce excitedly yes we believe on the Creater but in case of following the laws of HIM they remain silence.

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Nyla  +  229961 Sun, 28 May 06 08:21 PM
To Salman': I have one question. Where do you put all the atheists?..all those people that don't believe in God,and in His laws.

Suggestion:..Mars is not a colony..still.. Big Smile [:D]

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Janissary  +  229968 Sun, 28 May 06 09:11 PM


cut the words like a journalist means???? I do not write without reading previous posts, I repeat only sentence again and again which have common sense, what I write is, the people, the politians wheither they are muslims, christians or jews, If they believe on the Creater, why don't follow the laws of the Creater simple. Because I've been hearing from them, they responce or announce excitedly yes we believe on the Creater but in case of following the laws of HIM they remain silence.

you know, journalists detach some words or sentences from passage regardless of the correlation with the context.

However, the two assertion were different cases,as far as i can see. In the first one it is the Islamic law,Sharia.If the country is a muslim country with a majority and they believe the rules of God and his orders, why not?

In the second one, think about India. India's religious affairs are manifold.Assume that the government is Buddhist and they want to implement the rules of Budhism. What would be to those who are Muslims or Christians?Or suppose that the government is constituted from Muslims.If they implement Sharia what would be to those who are Budhist or etc. Then the second assertion comes as correct."The government should decide what the legislation is better."

Jhumjhum  +  230055 Mon, 29 May 06 05:30 AM
From the very beginning of civilization we found that war and capturing land was a part of politics, whatever may be the issue,till the second world war.But after the formation of UNO there are certain rules and regulations although some countries are still interfaring in others' internal affairs which according to me is unjustifed .Spiritual belief is totally different from politics.Every counntries' government should take decision for the welfare of their citizens (health , education ,employment,evironment,economic developement,external affairs etc)and people should follow citizen'rights and citizen's duties. But when it comes about religion,whether one worships Allah or Jesus or Buddha ,it is his /her personal matter.Government should only take care that whether one religion is creating hindrance to other or not.
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Sandy15  +  230475 Tue, 30 May 06 01:35 PM

I don't think so. Maybe religions can be a powerful weapon for the governor. Chinese has an ancient proverb: "Occpy heart is better than occupy the town. " Blooding is not a good idea to conquer our enemies though they were under control apparently.They will defy you at any possible time.  While one's heart belongs to you, both his/her hear and body belongs to you.

Religions can make such effect. So politics will make full use of the religion weapon to control you. It's governs' powerful weapon!

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Janissary  +  230525 Tue, 30 May 06 04:07 PM

Its a different point of view but I completely agree with you on your argument, Sandy ; and especially i really liked that Chinese proverb "Occupy heart is better than occupy the town"

Jhumjhum  +  232640 Mon, 05 Jun 06 01:25 PM
Sandy, I also appreciate the proverb "Occupy ....................".But when the religion becomes the issue of fighting( which  often we watch in politics) what would be your opinion.
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