Should Taiwan be part of China?

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Guest  #52270  Wed, 27 Oct 04 04:51 AM
What I (and the world at large) really amazes the world is the uncanny abiltiy of the the communist regime of China to distort facts and suppress the minorities. For example, they gobbled up all land lying toward the west which were typically muslim countires (Eastern Turkistan, etc) and then they attacked T!bet and cited the same (almost nonsensical) argument that t!bet was part of China for millions of years. I dont have any issues against bigger guys swalloowing the smaller ones; becoz, it has happened zillions of times in the past and we must learn to live with tha. But what separates China and its draconian ideology from other cultures/countire is that, China treats people in such occupied people in a humiliating way violating all humnaitarian concerns. Thats what Taiwanese are afraid. they are afraid of the post-unification scenario. And instaed of engaging them in dialogue, China threatens to blow up the whole taiwan. Pro'lly, China is the only country on earth which is ready to "integrate" its "dissident" province at any cost; even if it involves killing all the people on the island. So what china essentially wants is that piece of land and not its people !!

And I really couldnot help from laughing aloud when somepne tlked about brainwashing. If you want to see braiwashing at its best, search no more, visit China. here what u see, hear, and read - everything is controlled. And chinese govt. spares no efforts to instill hatered in the hearts of its people against japan, taiwan, etc. chinese govt killed and massacred millions of its own people than what Japneys did. So its so funny to see people in china discussing about politicws when cant even elect their own leaders. its just a farce.

And as for the "fatcs" and "figures" provided by chinese, u will have learn to take it with a pinch of salt. For eveyrhting they will quote some "qing" or "ming" dynasty (the history itself is rigged and presented to the world in a way the govt wants)

so its time china/chinese stopped lecturing about "fredom", "choice", etc and let taiwanese enjoy their true joy of freedom.
  
Wespe  #52291  Wed, 27 Oct 04 08:41 AM
Hehe, in the cloak of "Freedom & Human-right concerned" to advocate something undiscoverred fully, always seem to get effect for the sympathy of consensus in advance.

I admit my country there is something shady that the Masses didn't know at all, but how about your separatist hiding something either to the overall Taiwanese people ? The first crucial step to de-chinalization is to abandon the Chinese characters you use in daily life first, just try it do so purposedly.
  
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Davis_Chan  #52551  Thu, 28 Oct 04 04:31 PM

I will respect Taiwan people's choice if they vote for independent with separating from China.
But i believe it doesn't work cause most of the countries in the world will refuse to recognise the existence of Taiwan as a independent nation.
  
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hypnopaedic  #52612  Fri, 29 Oct 04 05:11 AM
"The first crucial step to de-chinalization is to abandon the Chinese characters you use in daily life first, just try it do so purposedly."

Your comment is somewhat confusing. That is like telling the US to abandon English and some of the currently independent African nations to abandon French all together because they chose to break away from those who use to rule over them. In having both adapted and derived from a great nation doesn't mean they have to abandon their history or the language they've been so very rooted and familar with. Two wrongs don't necessarily make a right.
  
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Davis_Chan  #52723  Fri, 29 Oct 04 07:43 PM
"Taiwan is a country. Taiwanese have never belong to China. Please, DO NOT dream by yourself. Taiwan no longer has province"

I know it is ture that Taiwan has it's own government which is selected by her people. So in a way Taiwan is a "country".But this country is illegal cause the internetional society will insist their views that Taiwan belongs to China.

Actually.I think China is a culture existence rather than a political existence.So China does not equal to the People Repubilc of China(PRC) completely.Mainland of China and Taiwan constitute a great China together.If Taiwan separated.It will be a bloody wounded in china

As we know the straits' situation is tension now.If Taiwan claim her independent or mainland of China invade Taiwan.Many countries will involve in this event.It will make the condition uncontrollable and unexpected.

So i wish chinese in mainland and aslo in Taiwan could negotiate a solution to peace in straits region. May be "one country two system" or "the united states of China" etc.No matter how,Political way is the only choice on both side.

  
fl3d  #54879  Fri, 12 Nov 04 06:28 AM
This problem has been around for decades and still it has not come to a conclusion, because people are not accepting the facts. I am from Taiwan, however, I still truly believe that Taiwan is part of China. It is totally understandable that the people of Taiwan are angry and even have hatred towards China for what they have done in the past. I use to hate China because of what they did to my people, and even family. Today, I see things from a broader perspective, and believe that our future lies in China. China is a growing country, and is changing dramatically, becoming a free market, democratic society, even though it will take years to change fully. There are two groups of people in Taiwan that express different views on this issue, the people who came over after the war between Chiang Kai Shek's party (KMT) and Mao, and the people who moved over to the island during the Ming dynasty almost 300 years ago. Most people under KMT want eventual reunification with China because they recognize they were once part of the country. The people that came during the Ming dynasty still feel they are an independant nation. This is not accurate because Taiwan was already a province of China during those days. It was always a part of China, even before the KMT. Of course, it is disappointing to say that China left Taiwan to survive on its own. They really did not pay much attention to Taiwan after the wars because of their own problems. Taiwan today, has developed into a high tech and rich society. The people suffered through so many issues and worked their way up to the top, and now China wants them back? It is difficult to give up something you worked so hard for, but they are Chinese, and Taiwanese are Chinese. You cannot take something away that was never yours. China will never let Taiwan go. I do believe the people of Taiwan deserve a great apology for what China has done in the past. It is a mere fact that slowly Taiwan is moving closer to China, considering they have about 900,000 Taiwanese doing business in China. However, it will take a lot of time before Taiwan is ever reunified fully with China. If you ask me now, I would vote against reunification because it would hurt Taiwan's economy, and standard of living. China is not at the level of Taiwan in terms of GDP per capita, and even in its democratic system. Once China reaches that level, then it would be a good idea to get back with the motherland. If you ask me in the future in about 60-70 years, when China improves more, I would vote for the reunification. Today, I do not hate China mainlanders, nor the people of Taiwan 300 years ago, or even the KMT. I just want to see a peaceful solution to this problem. I hope that people can understand this problem from an overall perspective, and not let hatred blind them from the truth. Taiwanese must recognize this, and not be naive about it. I love Taiwan, but I love China as well. Taiwan is the last piece of the puzzle to a better future for all Chinese. Thanx.
  
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Guest  #58775  Thu, 02 Dec 04 01:20 AM
hey~ yeah, I'm doing reserch on it, write a papper about Taiwan issue. As a chinese my opion is that Taiwan should belong to China no matter under the history fact or the law. It's not about that China not letting Taiwan to be indenpendent, Chinese governemnet abosutly intorlerant of having two China, cuz Taiwan call them self Republic of China.
  
Theedee  #59483  Sun, 05 Dec 04 03:52 PM
In my opinion, Taiwan deserves a place in the UN, Taiwan deserves its indenpendency and it should be granted the status of a country of its own. Whether this country is going to be called "Republic of China" or "Taiwan" doesn't really matter. If the Taiwanese want to be independent - and it seems as if they did - they should be able to!
My Taiwanese sister (well, she's not my sister by birth, I am not Taiwanese) also thinks that Taiwan should not be part of China, be she and many Taiwanese are afraid of what China, the big dragon, is going to do after Taiwan declares independence. That's why she's really torn because of course, she wants her family and herself to be in safety and not involved in war.
Also, the only reasons why most states have broken their diplomatic ties with Taiwan is because they are afraid of Chinese consequences (economy and so on). Most countrys have consulates in Taiwan that act as embassies!

As a further reading, I recommend the following website why Taiwan should be part of the UN which would grant them a more independent status:

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Guest  #73493  Sat, 12 Feb 05 02:26 AM
taiwan is a lot different from china.
taiwan can stand by it self with out the help of china
though taiwan capita income is more than china
taiwan can stand it self in the world
  
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