Grammar Geek  +  357103 Sat, 28 Apr 07 05:22 PM Here is what I have observed about parenting - no one knows nearly as much about the "right" way to raise a child as the person who has no children. And BTW, I think there is a big difference in the at-the-moment single swat and "wait till your father gets home." And I also differentiate between an open hand swat and using anything else. Julie has said everything so elquently I don't know that I can add at all to the conversation. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,506 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random! Conversations

	Stannum  +  357190 Sat, 28 Apr 07 09:48 PM  Old Man Gordon wrote: For the parent, such separation may give them just the time they need to 'better consider their course of action', calm down, and avoid making an ill-judged decision out of anger in the heat of the moment. I accept the concept of the parent seperating themselves from their child if the parent is angry and fears harming the child.  This is good but it is disingenuous to claim that the child is being sent to their room as punishment when the child is being sent to their room to be protected. Stannum Stannum Joined on Fri, Oct 28 2005 Melbourne Australia Regular Member 526

	Stannum  +  357193 Sat, 28 Apr 07 09:51 PM  Julielai wrote: To answer Stannum's question, you sometimes see adults physically slapping and pinching each other but I don't think any of that amounts to something you need to call the cops about. There's something to be said about a "reasonable person's standard". I do not see adults physically slapping and pinching each other but in any event, this has nothing to do with parental relationships with children. What you have described shouds suspiciously like equals fighting which has nothing to do with discipline administered by a fully grown adult to a developing child. Stannum Stannum

	Alexa For Australia  +  358898 Wed, 02 May 07 02:22 AM  Stannum wrote:  Julielai wrote: I'm not saying corporal punishment is right, but I don't see coproal punishment to be any more harmful to a child than other ill-judged things a parent may say or do. Children aren't eggshells; they're stronger than we think and most will manage to become perfectly fine adults... It would be a good idea if parents judges their actions a little more carefully. What other ill-judged things that a parent may say or do is on par with physical assault? Stannum  None, Stannum. And children can feel injustice as strongly as a adult. Alexa Alexa For Australia Joined on Tue, May 1 2007 Al Andalus, Ground Control. Full Member 153 Murphy's Golden Law: Whoever has the power makes the rules.

	Stannum  +  358970 Wed, 02 May 07 08:26 AM  Alexa For Australia wrote: None, Stannum. And children can feel injustice as strongly as a adult. Absolutely. The additional problem for children is that they have not yet lived long enough to have developed adequate coping mechanisms. Stannum Stannum

	Alexa For Australia  +  359072 Wed, 02 May 07 03:21 PM  Stannum wrote:  Alexa For Australia wrote: None, Stannum. And children can feel injustice as strongly as a adult. Absolutely. The additional problem for children is that they have not yet lived long enough to have developed adequate coping mechanisms. Stannum You're totally right. A child will never forget an unjust punishment, let alone an unjust spanning. But will understand reason, if a parent knows how to reason. Alexa Alexa For Australia

	Stannum  +  359235 Wed, 02 May 07 08:23 PM  Alexa For Australia wrote: A child will never forget an unjust punishment, let alone an unjust spanning. But will understand reason, if a parent knows how to reason. In times of trouble I still have my father's reasoned words moving walls and clearing floorboards in the chambers of my mind. Stannum Stannum

	julielai  +  359275 Wed, 02 May 07 09:12 PM I see. Thx julielai Joined on Sun, Oct 24 2004 Senior Member 3,826 Just another blogger (http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/julie-lai)