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New2grammar  #321061  Sun, 28 Jan 07 06:23 PM

Isn't it idiomatic to say "It has been a long time since we met"? Does this mean "we" did not meet on a regular basis (habitual) before and, therefore, "met" is used instead of "have met"?

  
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Yoong Liat  #321067  Sun, 28 Jan 07 06:36 PM
 New2grammar wrote:

Isn't it idiomatic to say "It has been a long time since we met"? Does this mean "we" did not meet on a regular basis (habitual) before and, therefore, "met" is used instead of "have met"?

You're right. The last time we met took place long ago.

  
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Ant_222  #321101  Sun, 28 Jan 07 07:49 PM
Yoong: do you think the following sentence is incorrect?

«In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was the last time he has driven a NASCAR race.»
  
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Inchoateknowledge  #321120  Sun, 28 Jan 07 08:46 PM

 Ant_222 wrote:
Yoong: do you think the following sentence is incorrect? «In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was the last time he has driven a NASCAR race.»

The 3 chief uses of pp:

1 state present perfect

used with stative verb senses to refer to a state that began in the past and extends to the present and perhaps even further.

I have been learning English for four years.

2 the event present perfect

event(s) happened in a period leading up tho the present.
two subclasses:

a) recently happened


I have got a new pair of Nike air max 360 shoes.

b) some indefinite time in the past:

Have you seen my new shoes? (until this moment in the present?)
The implicit time frame leads up to the present

3 habitual pp

dynamic verb sense, events, happening many times, in the past and in the present.

I have been bed-ridden for four days

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"In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was the last time he has driven a NASCAR race"

correct, provided there are chances he will race again -- 2b category

It has been a while since I first/last wrote anything here -- while = the period of time that has passed since the last/first writing --

It has been a while since I have been writing -- while = period of time in which I  have put in posts in this forum. 

  
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Ant_222  #321137  Sun, 28 Jan 07 09:13 PM
«...correct, provided there are chances he will race again -- 2b category»

Isn't it the other way round — when there are no chances? Asking because you have been swinging beetwen it's being correct and incorrect... To make sure.

1. «...the period of time that has passed since the last/first writing» — Got it.

2. «...period of time in which I have put in posts in this forum.» — just don't understand what you mean. The period during which I was posting or what?
  
Inchoateknowledge  #321153  Sun, 28 Jan 07 09:29 PM

"In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was the last time he has driven a NASCAR race"

"In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That is the last time he has driven a NASCAR race"

To me, the two sentences are identical.

"In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was/is the last time he has driven a NASCAR race" -- he may still drive in the NASCAR.

"In 2002, Stricklin struggled mightily and was soon released. That was/is the last time he drove a NASCAR race" -- he never will drive in the Nascar again

  
Ant_222  #321156  Sun, 28 Jan 07 09:33 PM
Ok, thanks.

EDIT: By the way, does the same apply to:

1. "It was the first time Jack has driven a truck"

2. "It was the first time Jack drove a truck" (So he has driven a truck only once?)
  
Inchoateknowledge  #321161  Sun, 28 Jan 07 09:39 PM

It has been a while since I have been writing -- while = period of time in which I  have put in posts in this forum. -- habitual present perfect. The time frame is leading up to the present

The action axpressed by the dynamic verb repeatedly occured up to and including the present.

  
Inchoateknowledge  #321174  Sun, 28 Jan 07 10:01 PM

 Ant_222 wrote:
Ok, thanks. EDIT: By the way, does the same apply to: 1. "It was the first time Jack has driven a truck" 2. "It was the first time Jack drove a truck" (So he has driven a truck only once?)

It was the first time that he has driven a truck -- he might drive later than the present time.

It was the first time Jack drove a truck -- narrative past; I cannot infer whether he would later drive a truck.

  
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