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Hela  #235285  Mon, 12 Jun 06 07:37 PM

Dear teachers,

Would you please tell me WHY we use a plural verb after "the majority"?

The majority ARE going to vote against him.
The great majority of incomes CONSIST of wages and salaries.

Best wishes,
Hela

  
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Cool Breeze  #235299  Mon, 12 Jun 06 08:43 PM
Hi Hela

All kinds of opinions have been offered about words like majority requiring a singular or a plural verb. If you prefer singular, in my opinion you can use it in your sentences:

The majority is/are going to vote against him.
The great majority of incomes consist(s) of wages and salaries.

I know many people disagree with me, though.

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CalifJim  #235411  Tue, 13 Jun 06 04:28 AM
the majority is, in essence, a form of most which is exclusively a countable (unlike most, which can be countable or noncountable).

Here are fifteen spoons.  The majority of the spoons are made of silver.  The majority are made of silver.

Can the majority be just one?  How can one spoon be the majority in a group of fifteen?

What else can it be, if not plural?

CJ

  
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Hela  #235459  Tue, 13 Jun 06 08:11 AM

Thank you CJ Smile [:)]

  
Cool Breeze  #235483  Tue, 13 Jun 06 09:25 AM
 CalifJim wrote:
the majority is, in essence, a form of most which is exclusively a countable (unlike most, which can be countable or noncountable).

Here are fifteen spoons.  The majority of the spoons are made of silver.  The majority are made of silver.

Can the majority be just one?  How can one spoon be the majority in a group of fifteen?

What else can it be, if not plural?

CJ


Hi CJ

I agree with your reasoning completely. I wouldn't say the majority is a form of most, though. They just mean the same thing. But that's beside the point. The majority can't be just one, that's very true, and just like you I use the plural verbs you offer in your examples.  However, there are people who don't look at it that way. Since the word the majority is in the singular (singular: majority, plural: majorities), some people use a singular verb whether we like it or not. It doesn't give me a headache even though I prefer a plural verb.

There has been vacillation between singular and plural verb forms in English for at least as long as there are written records of the language, that's about 1300 years. Some say: The audience were satisfied, others say: The audience was satisfied, and I don't think there was just one person in the audience when they say so.

As matter of fact, English has always been very flexible in matters of singular and plural. There are at least two reasons for this: there has never been a Language Academy anywhere in the Anglo-Saxon world to regulate the language and English is derived from so many origins that some discrepancies have inevitably arisen. In my opinion they enrich the language but if you want to reject some of the phenomena I am fascinated by, I don't object to your doing that.  We can still be friends, I hope?

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Hela  #236385  Thu, 15 Jun 06 11:24 AM

Dear teachers,

Now, if we look at the following sentences:

1) Neither my brotheR nor my sisteR WANTS to go to the festival.

Would you say that we should use a singular verb because:

a) the construction "neither/either... nor/or" commands it;

OR because

b) it's the form of the closest subject to the verb that commands it ?

2) Neither my brotheR nor my sisterS  WANT to go to the festival.

3) Neither my brotherS nor my sisteR WANTS to go to the festival.

All the best,

Hela

  
Icy_blue  #236428  Thu, 15 Jun 06 03:10 PM

Well, this problem has disturbed me for a long time, either.

The common logic does not always work while judging a subject is singular or plural.

And I think the following link has something to do with this thread, please also read it if you like. Thanks!

http://www.englishforums.com/English/JudgeCoreWordPhrase/cxcbz/Post.htm

  
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Grammar Geek  #236465  Thu, 15 Jun 06 05:54 PM

Yes, Hela, when you have an "OR" as part of your subject, the verb takes the singular or plural based on the one closest to it.

Either my brother my sisters want to vacation in the moutnains, but I forget which.

Either my sisters or my brother wants ...

  
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CalifJim  #236488  Thu, 15 Jun 06 08:02 PM
proofread!
  
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