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Volcano1985  +  857194 Tue, 11 Aug 09 03:10 PM
How could the man have come by so silly a fancy?

Shouldn't it be a so silly fancy?
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Mr Wordy  +  857211 Tue, 11 Aug 09 03:21 PM
No, it's right.

 

"so silly a fancy" = "such a silly fancy".

 

A "fancy" is a notion -- usually one that's not based very solidly in reality.

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Tanit  +  857410 Tue, 11 Aug 09 06:19 PM
Hii,


I have a question related to this that nagged me for some time in the past and that I forgot ... until I saw this thread.


I know that there's a special word order when we have as - how - so - too, the indefinite article, a noun and an adjective. I also remember these structures are quite formal.


    He wouldn't do that. He's too good a boy.

    I've never seen as happy a man as him.

    How talented a writer is he?

   That was so enjoyable a book that I could't put it down.


(Hope these were correct. I've just made them up. Please correct them if there's something wrong.)


My question is: are there any other words for which this particular word order (X + adjective + a/an + noun) applies?

More specifically, can I use it with quite, really and rather?


     He's quite/really/rather talented a writer.        (?)


I failed to find any reference to support this construction. Yet, it doesn't sound like chalk on a blackboard to my ears. Should it?


Many thanks.

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CalifJim  +  857507 Tue, 11 Aug 09 07:37 PM
Tanit

My question is: are there any other words for which this particular word order (X + adjective + a/an + noun) applies?

More specifically, can I use it with quite, really and rather?

     He's quite/really/rather talented a writer.        (?)

quite just barely works for me.  But I wouldn't use it.  Others may find it completely incorrect.


?He's quite talented a writer.


The others don't work for me at all.  In every case my preference is a different word order, thus:


He's quite a talented writer.

He's really a talented writer.

He's rather talented as a writer.   ( ! )

Also:  He's [quite / really] talented as a writer.


Also:  He's a [quite / really / rather] talented writer.


CJ

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Mr Wordy  +  857547 Tue, 11 Aug 09 08:03 PM
Tanit
“are there any other words for which this particular word order (X + adjective + a/an + noun) applies? ”

 

Another word that fits this structure is "this" (or "that"):

 

"This talented a writer should not be struggling to earn a living." 

Tanit  +  857553 Tue, 11 Aug 09 08:16 PM
Thank you very much, CJ and Mr Wordy!
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