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Anonymous  +  632877 Tue, 06 Jan 09 08:38 PM
Hi,

1.He trained every day in order to improve his performance.

2.He trained every day so that he could improve his performance.

Are 'in order to' and 'so that' interchangeable and do they mean exactly the same here?

Thanks.

Grammar Geek  +  632880 Tue, 06 Jan 09 08:44 PM

They're both fine and mean the same, but you can also say simply "to" instead of "in order to" -- and that's what I would suggest if you wanted to keep this basic sentence structure.

 

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Anonymous, 321 days ago
Thank you GG for your answer.
Can I omit 'that' in 'in order that'? For example:
He trained every day in order (that) he could improve his performance.
Anonymous, 320 days ago
Hi, could someone please reply to my above question? Thanks!
Grammar Geek  +  633755 Wed, 07 Jan 09 02:18 PM

No - you can't say "He trained every day that the could..." but you CAN say (and it's preferable to "in order to") "He trained every day to improve his performance."

 

Fandorin  +  633769 Wed, 07 Jan 09 02:34 PM
In addition Grammar Geek said, this is my pinch:

in order that/so that/so + clause, expressing purpose (often with modal)

He took his coat off in order that/so that/so he could feel more comfortable.

so as (not) to/in order (not) to + verb (verbal phrase) (expresses purpose of an action)

He goes jogging so as to/in order to lose weight.

Jane is working as hard as possible so as to/in order to get a new house.

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myeung  +  633859 Wed, 07 Jan 09 04:19 PM
i agree with what Fandorin said.about.  But, in order that/ so that etc can express the result of something.

E.g There are no buses, so that you will have to walk.

but,maybe i am wrong here.
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Grammar Geek  +  633899 Wed, 07 Jan 09 04:58 PM

No, I would never say it with the "that."

There are no buses, so you'll have to talk.

I find "in order that" to be unnecessarily wordy. Just say "so."

I find "in order to" to be unncessarily wordy. Just say "to."

 

Anonymous, 320 days ago
Thanks all of you!
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