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Steven Mc,
3 yr 173 days ago
Thank you for agreeing with me, Golden. ![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/emotion-5.gif)
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Vicky23
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Thu, 25 May 06 05:47 AM
people should not be allowed to commit suicide. everyone has obligations. even if he is a kid, he is obliged to behave properly and being educated. he also have the responsibilities of doing good to the society and taking care of his family after growing up. no one is living completely alone. we all owe something to our country, the society and the people caring about us. we can't decide on our own to end our lives. it is totally selfish and irresponsible. for example, a middle aged man committed suicide. no matter what his excuse is, he dumped his wife and abandoned his children. he broke the hearts of his old parents. he forced his colleagues to deal with his work. and he left quite a lot compulsory work undone...so ,maybe he got into heaven. it is really unfair for the people behind him.
life is not easy for all of us. we can't avoid depressing things. when you are desperate, try to think more about the people that you love and love you. and do not forget someone need you.we can get through any trouble if we hold on. suicide is definitely not the way solving problems.
if you make a big mistake, let the law dicide what to do. committing suicide is not a reasonable punishment.
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Steven Mc
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Thu, 25 May 06 05:05 PM
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Well, i heard that no one can go into heaven if he/she commits suicide.
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Anonymous,
3 yr 147 days ago
I agree, and disagree to this statement. I think that some people should be a allowed to commit suicide. People with chronic illnesses, and such should have that choice. Younger people, like 15/16 years olds should not have that option. There are so many hormones running through their bodies that they don't think clearly most of the time, and therefore have no real control over their actions. They often overract to minor problems, such as a break up, or a failed exam. Since teenagers' minds are so clouded by the sea of hormones they swim through, they have a lack of discretion and may do something drastic because of a minor problem. So my overall opinion on this issue is that NO people should not be allowed to commit suicide. If someone with a chronic ilness really wants to die, then they will do it anyways. By disallowing suicide, we'll keep a lot of teens from killing themselves, because they won't develope the attitude of "I'm allowed to do it anyways."
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Thu, 15 Jun 06 02:04 AM
Stepping into grounds of euthanasia, eh? Depression is an imbalance of hormones in the brain, therefore it is a medical condition. Iunno about some of the others in here, but I was depressed for a while, saw a counsellor a couple of times, tried ot be more active (exercise and the sort can release a form of pharamone/hormone that can cause happiness), and I worked on my outlook on things. I am not going to get into my reasoning for such thoughts, but I feel that suicide is morally wrong. Sometimes people need to be told to deal with things, and I will even extend that to some very intense situations. Either way, this kind of discussion is vastly based on opinion so far. I do not see how one who is not a doctor can prescribe a course of action for those who are suffering a medical condition.
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Daedalus7
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Sat, 01 Jul 06 01:00 AM
| Vicky23 wrote: | |
people should not be allowed to commit suicide. everyone has obligations. even if he is a kid, he is obliged to behave properly and being educated. he also have the responsibilities of doing good to the society and taking care of his family after growing up. no one is living completely alone. we all owe something to our country, the society and the people caring about us. we can't decide on our own to end our lives. it is totally selfish and irresponsible. for example, a middle aged man committed suicide. no matter what his excuse is, he dumped his wife and abandoned his children. he broke the hearts of his old parents. he forced his colleagues to deal with his work. and he left quite a lot compulsory work undone...so ,maybe he got into heaven. it is really unfair for the people behind him.
life is not easy for all of us. we can't avoid depressing things. when you are desperate, try to think more about the people that you love and love you. and do not forget someone need you.we can get through any trouble if we hold on. suicide is definitely not the way solving problems.
if you make a big mistake, let the law dicide what to do. committing suicide is not a reasonable punishment.
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I agree on the banning of suicide, but not on the grounds of "everyone has obligations".
i mean, the only obligation of a human being should be not to hurt other human being. Apart from that, I don't see any reason for burdening a person with artificial obligations. this is not the medieval ages in which youngsters were practically obliged to go abroad to fight wars
I believe in an idea called "cosmic conscience". In short, it says that all minds are somehow interconnected. So the death of a person, (be it caused by natural death, suicide, murder,...) it's a source of pain to me because I feel that some part of my conscience has died. So I cannot abet suicide
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Sat, 01 Jul 06 06:35 AM
I definitely believe that euthanasia should be legal, but I'm not so certain about suicide in general. I would normally support an individual's right to do whatever they want as long as their actions don't infringe on the safety or rights of others. Still, suicide is complicated in that individuals considering it are not usually of sound enough mind to make a decision about something so obviously permanent, and many other people will still be emotionally affected by their actions. While I don't believe that obligations in general are enough to prohibit suicide (people have a right to behave irresponsibly), there are some that need to be given special consideration, such as that of a parent to a child. I can't help the feeling that a parent of young children who commits suicide is guilty of child abuse. At the same time, what does making suicide illegal accomplish?
It seems ridiculous to me that a person should or could be punished by the legal system for attempting suicide. They're obviously suffering a great bout of depression, and making them stand trial certainly isn't going to solve the issue. Punishing them would only serve to make them more desperate and all the more likely to attempt suicide again. So I guess, I don't like the ideal of making suicide illegal, but I don't want to condone it either. It's something that society should strongly condemn, but not punish. If that means making it technically illegal, but only demanding that survivors seek immediate treatment, I would be for that. On the other hand, if someone suggests it cease to be made illegal, but that the government and society adopt a strong policy of prevention and counseling, I would be for that too.
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Anonymous,
3 yr 130 days ago
| Daedalus7 wrote: | | [I agree on the banning of suicide, but not on the grounds of "everyone has obligations".
I
believe in an idea called "cosmic conscience". In short, it says that
all minds are somehow interconnected. So the death of a person, (be it
caused by natural death, suicide, murder,...) it's a source of pain to
me because I feel that some part of my conscience has died. So I cannot
abet suicide
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I see. You are a very selfish person. You do not mind if a
person is in tremendous pain, as somehow you are unfeeling enough not
to notice it. However, if that person were to die, as everyone
ultimately does, such that that person would be out of pain, then this
would cause you such unbearable pain that you prefer to force the
person to endure great pain in order to save you from feeling your
theoretical minor pain.
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