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Wed, 13 Sep 06 08:37 AM
It is impossible to say anyone is going to hell. Remember the man on the cross who asked forgiveness. He was told he would be in paradise that night. Do you or anyone know the state of mind of those about to commit suicide? I would leave that to God if you believe in Him. He is infinitely more merciful and less harsh than we are. Compassion for those who fear life so much is what is needed.
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Sofía_C
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Thu, 14 Sep 06 07:31 AM
Golden wrote: | I don't know why you people seem to be thinking that people who commit suicide are not thinking straight. I mean it is just a point of view, right?
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I guess it`s just something animal, is our nature to try to survive, to fight. I think we perceive suicide like "giving up", and that doesn't feel good. But I understand you want to defend the right of people to decide about their own lives, I mean, after all, if I put myself in that situation a would say "It's my life, I can do whatever I want with it", and for the same reason I woudl'nt ask for permission casuse I don`t think I would need it. It`s not like people go around saying: I`m thinking about killing myself tomorrow, what do you think about it?. So, to resume: suicidal people doesn`t really need the aprovement of society because by the time they find out about it, people's already dead.
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Anonymous,
3 yr 42 days ago
Why is it that there is the view that people who want to end it all are in some way not seeing reality? Sure, some may be so upset that they don't see reality, but maybe others are more rational than the majority. Maybe for them they have seen that their future holds nothing concrete. Look at those poor people who jumped from the World Trade Center Towers... they made a decision based on the facts they perceived. So, why shouldn't someone who is faced with a bleak future not be treated with the same respect? The concept of a law to forbid people to ennd their own existence is quite plainly laughable.

Anonymous,
3 yr 39 days ago
I found this forum by google-ing suicide. To be frank, I was looking it up because I have pondered the thought of killing myself for years, it has become a nearly daily thought the last two years. It annoys the living *** out of me that I can't bring myself to do it. I know there is nothing to live for, that the rest of my life will be a day in and out slavery with no moments of joy in them. I know that I am assigned to misery and there is no escape from it. I truly have no will to live at all what so ever. Most days I don't even eat because I have no will to feed myself and exist another day. I lay in the bed every morning looking up at the ceiling and crying because I woke up. It is my sincerest wish to die, yet I simply can't bring myself to go through the motions, the morbidity of it all. It has me angry and constantly analysizing why I just don't do it. To find this thing in me that is preventing me from what I want and destroy it so I'm free.
I sincerely wish that suicide was legal. That it was as simple as going to doctor who puts you under anastesia and after you are unconscious he injects you with whatever drugs can help you to cease existing. As far as the ethics of why someone should or should not die. What about the ethics of others minding their own business? Sincerely, its no one choice to tell others they must live. They don't have to experience the constant misery that the person who wants to committ suicide does. Living in a society that both prevents us from acheiving a quality of life while also prevents us from ending our lives is quite sadistic. Until society is actually able to alieviate the reasons why people want to die, then they have no business telling others they should not committ suicide.
Why do I want to die? Because I don't have the means to make anything I wish for come true. I'm tied down with kids I didn't want, I'm busting my ass every day working, going to school, cleaning house, doing my homework, taking care of children who are literal vampires, draining whatever energy left I have from me. There hasn't been one day in two years that I have slept more than 6 hours. There hasn't been one day I have not woke up to the sound of crying or screaming. I haven't taken a bath in a week. As I write this my kid is screaming again and I'm crying. My grades are suffering horribly and its only a matter of time before I lose my aid for my poor gpa. I'm going to be a poor single mother the rest of my life with no joy in it at all. Society could step in and help in some proactive way but no one gives a ***. Not a single soul, millions live and die like me, nothing changes. So who is to tell me the lie to hang in there? Who is to tell me that there is reason to keep going? There isn't. Don't give me this *** to live for my kids, they are ungrateful, its the nature of all organisms to be self-centered hedonistic parasites. Don't give me this *** that it will get better, it won't. I'm only getting older and poorer.
If suicide was legal and attainable by a medical doctor it would be a done deal long ago instead of sitting here still, wishing to all hell something would strike me down. So keep wasting energy debating if suicide is ethical instead of debating how your refusal to help people in dire need is unethical. In the mean while people like me will work on uprooting whatever it is that ties them to this miserable existence so we are finally free to kill ourselves as we wish.
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Mon, 02 Oct 06 12:06 PM
I'm sorry to hear what you are going through. You know we're here to listen to whatever you want to tell us.
Have you thought about seeing a doctor about this? I have a friend in the same boat, and she's seeing a doc right now.
I hope things may not be so bleak in the future for you.
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Anonymous,
2 yr 313 days ago
I have felt this way for years and never came up with a reason not to do it. Wish it were as simple as turning off a light switch but it turns out that to committ suicide you have to be pro-active in your demise. I'm too much of a loser to be pro-active in anything. Bummer, I apathetically guess I'll slog on. As for advise, there is none. Evereything I've heard is just distraction. The good thing is that someday we will die and then things will be as they were before we were born. Remember that? Yeah...
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Mon, 01 Jan 07 05:15 PM
Anonymous, I feel you. I am 18 years old and have been trying to kill myself since I was 14. I am suffering from diabetes and am going to lose my kidneys due to bad control. People mock me because of my weight. I am fat thanks to diabetes. And they make fun of me because I am not tall, thanks to diabetes again. They don't know how I feel, yet they laugh at me. Some people call me dwarf... They dont know how much this hurts me. My parents quarrel all the time because of my illness. They keep blaming each other that one is the reason for my having this disorder. I am a university student and I suck at lessons. I suck at living... I cannot talk to my friends about my problems because they just say "Dont worry things will get better" etc. no it just keeps getting worse and worse. Everytime I see people having good time, I cannot refrain myself from asking why I cant be as happy as they are. We cannot afford for my medicine most of the time. I just hate living like this... I am going to try getting rid of my "midget" body tonight again. But as far as I can get from your post( I am not a native speaker of English; I may have gotten you wrong, sorry) you are a mother and you live in a European country. I am not sure but as far as I know you can get financial support from your government. You can talk to your child(ren) about your problems and make everything better. Where is your husband? Doesn't he help you? Or don't you have any relatives? I know that they love you, I just know that. You can overcome your problems. Yours isn't something like mine; there is no way to cure diabetes. You can just treat it but I dont care after all these damage done to my organs. And who cares whether society approves suicide or not? I mean, everything stops after I die. Does it matter if they despise me because I killed myself?
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Tue, 02 Jan 07 09:43 PM
Super Sonic wrote: | Anonymous, I feel you. I am 18 years old and have been trying to kill myself since I was 14. I am suffering from diabetes and am going to lose my kidneys due to bad control. People mock me because of my weight. I am fat thanks to diabetes. And they make fun of me because I am not tall, thanks to diabetes again. They don't know how I feel, yet they laugh at me. Some people call me dwarf... They dont know how much this hurts me. My parents quarrel all the time because of my illness. They keep blaming each other that one is the reason for my having this disorder. I am a university student and I suck at lessons. I suck at living... I cannot talk to my friends about my problems because they just say "Dont worry things will get better" etc. no it just keeps getting worse and worse. Everytime I see people having good time, I cannot refrain myself from asking why I cant be as happy as they are. We cannot afford for my medicine most of the time. I just hate living like this... I am going to try getting rid of my "midget" body tonight again. But as far as I can get from your post( I am not a native speaker of English; I may have gotten you wrong, sorry) you are a mother and you live in a European country. I am not sure but as far as I know you can get financial support from your government. You can talk to your child(ren) about your problems and make everything better. Where is your husband? Doesn't he help you? Or don't you have any relatives? I know that they love you, I just know that. You can overcome your problems. Yours isn't something like mine; there is no way to cure diabetes. You can just treat it but I dont care after all these damage done to my organs. And who cares whether society approves suicide or not? I mean, everything stops after I die. Does it matter if they despise me because I killed myself?
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As a Muslim, how do you justify your decision?
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Super Sonic
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Fri, 05 Jan 07 02:08 PM
Feebs11 wrote: | Super Sonic wrote: | Anonymous, I feel you. I am 18 years old and have been trying to kill myself since I was 14. I am suffering from diabetes and am going to lose my kidneys due to bad control. People mock me because of my weight. I am fat thanks to diabetes. And they make fun of me because I am not tall, thanks to diabetes again. They don't know how I feel, yet they laugh at me. Some people call me dwarf... They dont know how much this hurts me. My parents quarrel all the time because of my illness. They keep blaming each other that one is the reason for my having this disorder. I am a university student and I suck at lessons. I suck at living... I cannot talk to my friends about my problems because they just say "Dont worry things will get better" etc. no it just keeps getting worse and worse. Everytime I see people having good time, I cannot refrain myself from asking why I cant be as happy as they are. We cannot afford for my medicine most of the time. I just hate living like this... I am going to try getting rid of my "midget" body tonight again. But as far as I can get from your post( I am not a native speaker of English; I may have gotten you wrong, sorry) you are a mother and you live in a European country. I am not sure but as far as I know you can get financial support from your government. You can talk to your child(ren) about your problems and make everything better. Where is your husband? Doesn't he help you? Or don't you have any relatives? I know that they love you, I just know that. You can overcome your problems. Yours isn't something like mine; there is no way to cure diabetes. You can just treat it but I dont care after all these damage done to my organs. And who cares whether society approves suicide or not? I mean, everything stops after I die. Does it matter if they despise me because I killed myself?
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As a Muslim, how do you justify your decision?
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I do not. I am not a muslim in fact. Well, I used to, but as "my god" didn't help me with my problems, I realized that it would be foolish to expect everything from an entity about whose existance I had doubts. I don't believe in religions at all.
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