Sound or sound like ?

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nayeem19

#94914 Sat, 30 Apr 05 10:17 PM

" Summarising Oakeshott in this way is bound to make him sound a hothouse English plant . "

Is it typical British usage to use only sound here ?

Why not " ....to make him sound like a hothouse English plant . " ?

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paco2004

#94932 Sun, 01 May 05 12:02 AM

Hello Nayeem

I'm not sure about what your sentence means exactly, but I think 'sound' (if it is used as a verb) should be followed by , not directly by , be it AmE or BrE.

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abbie1948

#94945 Sun, 01 May 05 12:52 AM

Certainly in BrE it would be "sound like".

to make him sound a hothouse English plant

This sounds like the poor chap is a plant doctor, and trying to listen to a plant's chest! Smile [:)]

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Hope that helps. Abbie

MrPedantic

#94961 Sun, 01 May 05 02:14 AM

It certainly sounds strange to me.

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abbie1948

#94973 Sun, 01 May 05 03:53 AM

Have you ever listened to the chest of a hothouse English plant Mr. P. (whatever is a "hothouse English plant??) It is indeed a very strange experience.

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CalifJim

#95000 Sun, 01 May 05 07:16 AM

Can't we allow this construction as a literary device forming a parallel with "appear", "seem", and perhaps others, or do you feel that these, too, always require "like"?

It makes him seem an idiot. (?)
It makes him appear a fool. (?)

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nayeem19

#95020 Sun, 01 May 05 11:16 AM

All my life I've hearing " sounds like " . Obviousl , I was a bit surprised to see
that type of sentence construction in the Economist magazine . I thought it
was typical British English then .

Should I presume that both sounds like and sound like are acceptable in the sentence given before ?
Oakeshott was a conservative British philosopher . A hothouse English plant is a plant which grows very quickly inside the hothouse .

The hothouse children are those children who were protected by their rich parents since their birth from the harsh realities of life .

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abbie1948

#95026 Sun, 01 May 05 12:39 PM

Hi Jim,

Can't we allow this construction as a literary device forming a parallel with "appear", "seem", and perhaps others, or do you feel that these, too, always require "like"?

It makes him seem an idiot. (?)
It makes him appear a fool. (?)

On reflection I think you are correct here, though I still find that this particulr sentence sounds strange. Maybe it is something to do with the adjectives; too many? not enough? wrong order?

"It makes him sound an idiot."

hothouse English plant

I was questioning the adjective order here, nayeem. I think it should be "English hothouse plant", though I still don't know quite what that is. I am familiar with English plants, and with hothouse plants, but have been unable to find a definition for or description of a "hothouse English plant". Tongue Tied [:S]

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pieanne

#95085 Sun, 01 May 05 04:23 PM

A wild guess:
a hothouse plant: a rare and wonderful flower that has to be taken care of, fragile, fearing cold temp's.
an English hothouse plant: a luscious English belle?
Some wouldn't mind listening to her chest, bu no wonder you have never tried, Abbie...

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I'm glad to help, but I'm not a native! And please excuse my typos...

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