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pleasehelp  +  961254 Wed, 04 Nov 09 06:28 AM
You speak to Jon recently.  Or


You spoke to Jon recently.

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dimsumexpress  +  961270 Wed, 04 Nov 09 06:46 AM
Have you spoken with Jon recently? "Recently" calls for present perfect context.

 

Did you speak with Jon yesterday (any past time marker)?

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pleasehelp  +  961277 Wed, 04 Nov 09 06:54 AM
Does it always have to be like that?  I'm asking for the condensed quick speak version....


I mean when I'm chatting online I think it's okay to just say:


Hey, you speak to mom recently?  Or


Hey,  you spoke to mom recently?

Grammar Geek  +  962977 Fri, 06 Nov 09 02:20 AM
Yes, in that context, it's not uncommon to use the first version. 


It's good to let us know the context you want to use things in. 

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dimsumexpress  +  962984 Fri, 06 Nov 09 02:27 AM
pleasehelp
“Does it always have to be like that?  I'm asking for the condensed quick speak version....

 

I mean when I'm chatting online I think it's okay to just say:


Hey, you speak to mom recently?  Or


Hey,  you spoke to mom recently?

 

 

Of course, people would have no problem understanding you speaking in this line of grammar. But that's not what you are here for, to validate the use of "internet English"; is it ? People use substandard English on line all the time, some I can't even call it English. I personally steer away from it.  The rest has been explained by GG.

pleasehelp  +  962990 Fri, 06 Nov 09 02:38 AM
dimsumexpress
pleasehelp
“Does it always have to be like that?  I'm asking for the condensed quick speak version....


I mean when I'm chatting online I think it's okay to just say:


Hey, you speak to mom recently?  Or


Hey,  you spoke to mom recently?

 


Of course, people would have no problem understanding you speaking in this line of grammar. But that's not what you are here for, to validate the use of "internet English"; is it ? People use substandard English on line all the time, some I can't even call it English. I personally steer away from it.  The rest has been explained by GG.


You're absolutely right but you know nowadays me and my friends we try to find ways to converse in the quickest manner possible.  Maybe that's why sometimes I get confused with proper grammatical writing.  For example I know I was supposed to say my friends and I, but who still says that...?  I mean I know ppl but you get my drift.

dimsumexpress  +  963004 Fri, 06 Nov 09 03:04 AM
You just brought up a very interesting point which is something I have observed over the course of the electronic revolution era. The younger generation has increased their computer knowledge several folds compared to mine, and expanded their internet world now with a browser phone and friend circle with a few flicks of their fingers  on the keypad. They would glue to the monitor for hours but are reluctant to spent a few minutes talking to the family. Correct me if I am wrong. As you said, ideas and messages are communicated in alphabets rather in sentences. As a result their verbal, written and communication skills slowly get diluted, which is a sad thing in my opinion.
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