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Anonymous  +  118128 Wed, 13 Jul 05 11:49 PM

do you say:

you spoilt me    or

you spoiled me?

paco2004  +  118160 Thu, 14 Jul 05 02:44 AM

When you use "spoil" to mean "impair the quality of", you can use either "spoiled" or "spoilt".

  • (o) My father spoiled me.
  • (o) My father spoilt me.

When you use "spoil" in the sense of "rob", you cannot use "spoilt".

  • (o) They spoiled us of our property.
  • (x) They spoilt us of our property.
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yulysess  +  118162 Thu, 14 Jul 05 02:53 AM

Hi Anonymous,

spoil (v) "-ed" or "spoilt"

in the sense " excessively indulged-pampered too much" you can say either.

 

hope this helps

 

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khoff  +  118191 Thu, 14 Jul 05 06:02 AM

When you use "spoil" in the sense of "rob", you cannot use "spoilt".

  • (o) They spoiled us of our property.
  • (x) They spoilt us of our property.

 

Paco - I'm afraid this is not used this way anymore (it's marked obsolete in my dictionary).  You can say "despoiled" -- that sounds sort of archaic, but at least people would recognize the meaning.  "Spoiled" in this sense just sounds weird! 

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paco2004  +  118193 Thu, 14 Jul 05 06:32 AM

Hello Khoff

Is it archaic? OED suggests the sense is still alive, though I couldn't find so many sentences of its kind of use in Google.

  • spoiled me/you/him/her/it/us/them 180+5+576+22+58+104+164=987
  • spoilt me/you/him/her/it/us/them 0+0+8+0+20+0+0+0=28
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khoff  +  118391 Thu, 14 Jul 05 09:10 PM
Paco - I could imagine reading "the army despoiled the countryside," but "they spoiled us of our property" just sounds very strange.  It's possible it's used that way in Britain, I suppose.  Let's see if anyone else has an opinion to offer.
paco2004  +  118404 Thu, 14 Jul 05 10:48 PM

Hello Khoff

I should admit the usage of "spoil someone of something" is archaic. Here are some sentences I extracted from Google. All of them are in classic documents like the Bible or Greek myths.

  • O King, we have been in the country of the infidels and they spoiled us of nothing.
  • Lycurgus then spoiled him of the armor which Mars had given him.
  • Ye Quraysh, the lion of Islam, hath leapt upon the lion of Persia, and spoiled him of his prey.
  • History attests that he laid a heavy hand upon them, spoiling them of the few earthly goods left them.
  • I was suddenly environed with a company of thieves, who robbed and spoiled me of such things.
  • He hath spoiled me of mine honor, and taken the crown away from my head.
  • These robbers never come but to spoil you of some good, whatever disguise they may appear in.
  • Beware lest any man spoil you. Spoil in this instance means to rob or plunder you.
  • The city was spoiled of all that was of value, and then given up to the flames.
  • They were spoiled of all their substance and deprived of the necessities of life.

A problem in my English learning is I couldn't identify what word is in contemporary use and what not.

paco
Eimai_Anglos  +  118450 Fri, 15 Jul 05 02:11 AM
QUOTE: They spoiled us of our property.

Well, I learn something every day! I'm 54 and I had never heard this.
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HaffiezMike  +  118471 Fri, 15 Jul 05 04:45 AM

By the way what about:

Learnt - learned??

Are both of the words correct? Stick out tongue [:P] I use 'learnt' but sometimes 'learned' Stick out tongue [:P] not sure which one is better Smile [:)]

BUT SUDDENLY I remember 'learned' is an American word! Smile [:)] No wonder i keep using 'learnt' as I'm speaking British English Smile [:)] So am I correct or not? I can easily get confused Sad [:(] It makes me sad Sad [:(] I wanna cry Crying [:'(] hehehehe Smile [:)]

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I'd be happy to help you guys but I warn : I'm the kind of person who can easily gets confused :) and I'm not so native but been speaking British English since I was...
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