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Englishsz  #308329  Fri, 29 Dec 06 02:57 AM

The cost of the initial three homes being created for the demonstration in China, Orlando, Florida and Mississippi and the cost of staging the China home erection will be the responsibility of Party A.

QUESTION:

The cost of the home being created for the demonstration in China

the cost of staging the China home erection

Aren't the above two the same thing?

  
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Inchoateknowledge  #308335  Fri, 29 Dec 06 03:16 AM
you mean the creation and the staging costs? No.
By the way, the participle phrase (being created) -- we had a debate the other day over it -- is progressive in form but refers to a completed action.
  
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Phoenix PR  #308347  Fri, 29 Dec 06 04:06 AM
Hi Englishsz,

The two things are different.  There is the TOTAL COST of the three homes in China, Florida, and Mississippi, and there's the COST OF STAGING the one home in China.

To simplify, may I suggest:

Party A is responsible for the cost of the initial three homes created for the demonstration in China; Orlando, Florida; and Mississippi as well as the cost of staging the home in China.

Note that I placed semi-colons after "China" and "Florida".  Orlando is a city in Florida.  So the three homes are in (1) China, (2) Orlando, Florida, and (3) Mississippi.  In the original sentence, one might assume three homes were in four places: (1) China, (2) Orlando, (3) Florida, and (4) Mississippi.  The semi-colons clarify things.

The reader would benefit by elaborating on what city in China and what city in Mississippi the two other homes are located. 

Does this help?

Jim


  
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Englishsz  #308356  Fri, 29 Dec 06 04:49 AM
What's the difference between creation costs and staging costs anyway?
  
Phoenix PR  #308361  Fri, 29 Dec 06 05:02 AM
Hi Englishsz,

Here in the U.S. (and elsewhere), when you "stage a home," you make it presentable to a potential buyer by placing nice furniture, rugs, curtains, etc. in the house.  Thus, the cost of staging a home is the cost of renting furniture/rugs/curtains/etc. + the cost of labor to install (and then remove) the items.  Here's an example of where the phrase is used.

There is no such thing as "creation costs."  What's being "created" are the three homes and, thus, what's being referred to is the TOTAL COST of the three homes.

Jim
  
Goodman  #308397  Fri, 29 Dec 06 08:16 AM

Hi Englishsz,

Here is my two cents:

There are 4 cities but only 3 initial homes built as models to be shown. The statement was not clear and created disagreement.

A [demo] is equivalent to a [model] or [sample display]. created for the demonstration is a very confusing phrase. Perhaps [built to be shown as models] may be an alternative.

 

[Staging] is the wrong choice of word here.  Be careful how you use [staging]. Used wrong, it create a skewed picture.  Here is a couple of scenarios where [staging] can be used.

 

The area where people set up tents and tables for water supplies, medical facility and course controls of a 10k run is the [staging area], sometimes is called [command post].

 

As the U.S. Air Force’s C-130 carrying the earthquake rescue supplies and equipment landed on the tarmac, the Marines on the ground quickly unloaded the cargo and set up a staging area to distribute the desperately needed resources.

 

Staging a scene – is to theatrically played out a scene for the purpose of deception.

 

Staging a home – sounds murky.

 

  
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Englishsz  #308406  Fri, 29 Dec 06 08:30 AM

Thanks you so much, Jim!

So, if I have understood it correctly. The total costs of the three homes in China and the U.S. do include staging costs. And the home to be staged by Party A in China is another home besides the three homes aforementioned . Am I right?

  
Anonymous  #308445  Fri, 29 Dec 06 12:39 PM
Party A is responsible for the cost of the initial three homes created for the demonstration in China; Orlando, Florida; and Mississippi as well as the cost of staging the home in China.

Based on my interpretation of the original paragraph,
  • The home in China that is being "staged" IS INCLUDED as one of the three mentioned in the first line.
  • One can't assume that all three houses are "staged."  It could be that ONLY the home in China is "staged" (and that Party A is paying for the "staging costs").  Or, it could be that ALL THREE homes are "staged" (and that Party A pays for "staging" the home in China and someone else pays for "staging" the homes in Florida and Mississippi).
In other words,
  • For ORLANDO, FL home, Party A pays for home cost.
  • For MISSISSIPPI home, Party A pays for home cost.
  • For CHINA home, Party A pays for home cost + staging cost.
The author could help all of us by clarifying! Smile [:)]

Jim

  
Goodman  #308544  Fri, 29 Dec 06 07:30 PM

When we write something complicated which requires the readers to understand it the way the we intended, the passage must be so very clear.  I certainly felt question marks whirling around my head from reading the original thread for I didn’t quite know what to make of it.  I think partly the problem came from terms and phrases that are not commonly used in the U.S. and partly came from awkward sentence construction.

The first part talked about “created homes” which isn’t something commonly heard here.  If these are new homes being built as models, the phrase “staging home” really threw me off, becasue this is a real estate term used by the professionals in preparing an old, or very unappealing home for sale in which “props” are used to dress up the appearance of the house so that when potential buyers come through the door, it offers enough eye appeal and visual satisfaction to keep them interested. I had seen some homes few years old but I walked right back out because of the inside ambiance. 

I am still not sure what you mean by "the cost of staging homes"? If I may take a wild shot, do you mean "the cost of sustaining the model homes?"

  
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