Anonymous  +  312383 Mon, 08 Jan 07 01:25 AM Hi there, I don't know where the subject is in the following sentence. Who expects? What is 'to be had'? As is expected from such a unique opportunity, there are many benefits to be had. Simon Anonymous

	CalifJim  +  312458 Mon, 08 Jan 07 07:05 AM According to some grammarians there is the subject.  It inverts with the verb to form a question, making it like other subjects.  Are there many benefits to be had?  According to others, benefits is the subject.  It agrees with the verb in number, making it like other subjects.  There is a benefit to be had. to be had means which a person can have (from the opportunity in question). CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,465 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche Verbs

	Cool Breeze  +  312494 Mon, 08 Jan 07 09:29 AM  Anonymous wrote: How about 'As is expected...'? Who is expected? What is this pattern? There is no subject. The structure is totally ungrammatical but has been around for a long time and is therefore called 'idiomatic usage'. Cheers CB Cool Breeze Joined on Fri, Apr 7 2006 Senior Member 3,979 "I hope you'll all live to be 150 years old - and the last voice you hear is mine!" Frank Sinatra on stage in Oslo, Norway, 28 September 1991

	pieanne  +  312502 Mon, 08 Jan 07 09:43 AM You can imagine there is an "it" implied (as it is expected), which would be the subject and refers to the whole following clause. pieanne Joined on Thu, Jan 20 2005 South of France ...But I'm Belgian! Veteran Member 7,517 I'm glad to help, but I'm not a native! And please excuse my typos... Clauses

	Ruttonjee  +  312664 Mon, 08 Jan 07 03:43 PM hi there, thanks a lot. so as you said, 'it' refers to the following clause. Do you mean 'there are benefit...'? Simon Ruttonjee Joined on Sat, Dec 16 2006 Full Member 143 Clauses

	pieanne  +  312673 Mon, 08 Jan 07 03:48 PM Yes, "there are many benefits to be had" pieanne

	Ouc  +  312697 Mon, 08 Jan 07 04:19 PM Please note that there are some differences between "As is expected  from /of " and "As it is expected" "As is expected", is usually followed by "of somebody" or "from sth or sb" see: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22as+is+expected%22&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&start=10&sa=N "As it is expected" is usually followed by "that"  or "to" see: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22as+it+is+expected%22&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1 Ouc Joined on Mon, Jan 1 2007 New Member 09

	CalifJim  +  312751 Mon, 08 Jan 07 06:26 PM How about 'As is expected...'? ... What is this pattern? This pattern is a sentence adverbial modifying the main clause.  The verb pattern is passive and its subject is the entire main clause. There are benefits to be had, and that (that there are benefits to be had) is expected.  That is, people in general expect (correctly) that there are benefits to be had. Here are some other as clauses with the same pattern. As was reported in yesterday's Times As is seen from the latest research As has been believed for centuries As was thought in ancient times As is known by any child of five CJ CalifJim Verbs, Clauses