Subject to/Subjected to

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rishonly  #202615  Thu, 02 Mar 06 09:35 PM

1. You will be subjected to security check up.

2. You will be subject to security check up.

Do these sentences convey same meaning? What is the difference between 'subjected to' and 'subject to'?

  
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paco2004  #202629  Thu, 02 Mar 06 10:33 PM

Hi, Krish

The below is a QA in The Grammar Logs in Guide to Grammar & Writing.

Question
Please tell me the difference of the following two sentences.
         "You will be subjected to security check-up."
         "You will be subject to security check-up."
Grammar's Response
Use the second version. "Subject," in that sentence, means simply that you will be under the influence of a later action (the checkup [which I would spell without the hyphen] ), as in "The mayor's plan is subject to discussion." But subjected to probably means that you will suffer the duress of an imposed action (it tends to imply something much more unpleasant).


BTW, did you see post 200099? If not, please take a look.

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rishonly  #202631  Thu, 02 Mar 06 10:38 PM
 Paco2004 wrote:

Hi, Krish

The below is a QA in The Grammar Logs in Guide to Grammar & Writing.

Question
Please tell me the difference of the following two sentences.
         "You will be subjected to security check-up."
         "You will be subject to security check-up."
Grammar's Response
Use the second version. "Subject," in that sentence, means simply that you will be under the influence of a later action (the checkup [which I would spell without the hyphen] ), as in "The mayor's plan is subject to discussion." But subjected to probably means that you will suffer the duress of an imposed action (it tends to imply something much more unpleasant).


BTW, did you see post 200099? If not, please take a look.

paco

Thanks for your feedback and URL reference,Paco.

  
Clive  #202662  Fri, 03 Mar 06 01:03 AM

Hi Krish,

Possibly this quick example might illustrate the difference a little in a simple way.

We are all subject to the law.

But, if you rob a bank, you will be subjected to the law.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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rishonly  #202713  Fri, 03 Mar 06 04:05 AM
 Clive wrote:

Hi Krish,

Possibly this quick example might illustrate the difference a little in a simple way.

We are all subject to the law.

But, if you rob a bank, you will be subjected to the law.

Best wishes, Clive

Thanks for the nice examples, Clive. In the case of a sentence that uses "subjected to", the subject of the sentence always gets unpleasant experience. Am I right?

  
Clive  #202726  Fri, 03 Mar 06 05:21 AM

Hi,

Yes, it has that ring to it.

Clive

  
rishonly  #202727  Fri, 03 Mar 06 05:24 AM
 Clive wrote:

Hi,

Yes, it has that ring to it.

Clive

Thanks Clive.

  
paco2004  #202759  Fri, 03 Mar 06 07:29 AM

"Subject to" is a predicative adjectival phrase and used to describe the state of the subject, whether the state is good or bad. "Be subjected to", on the other hand, is more suitable to describe an event in which the subject is the patient.

So we may say "All of us are subject to human error" but "All of us are subjected to human error" would be wrong. "Japanese-Americans were subjected to discrimination in the US during WW2" sounds natural. But "Women in pre-war Japan were subject to gender restrictions" would be as good as or even better than "Women in pre-war Japan were subjected to gender restrictions".

paco

  
CalifJim  #202775  Fri, 03 Mar 06 08:53 AM
The simplest explanation I know is this.

If you will be subjected to a check, someone will definitely and most assuredly perform the check on you.
If you will be subject to a check, you should be prepared for it because maybe someone just might perform the check on you.

It's the difference between will happen and could happen.

CJ

  
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