Use of the subjunctive after "would rather"

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MarvinTheMartian  #507837  Wed, 30 Apr 08 08:49 PM

I seem to have noticed that, when the object is not a person, "would rather" is often followed by the subjunctive mood instead of the simple past or the pluperfect. For instance, we say "I'd rather you joined me", but I rarely see: "I'd rather the meeting was canceled". Am I right in thinking that it would be better in this case to say: "I'd rather the meeting be canceled". How about the following sentences?

- "I'd rather the appointment be rescheduled."

- "I'd rather the meeting take place (or would take place) tomorrow"

- "If there's going to be a crisis, I'd rather it happen now than later."

Supposing that I'm right, what happens in the negative form? Should one say: "I'd rather the meeting didn't take place" or "I'd rather the meeting not take place (or wouldn't take place)"?

  
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CalifJim  #507854  Wed, 30 Apr 08 09:47 PM
 I wouldn't use would in those, but either the present subjunctive or the past (subjunctive) seems appropriate.

I'd rather --

he join me / he joined me / he not join me / he didn't join me

the appointment [be / were] rescheduled / [not be / were not] rescheduled

the meeting [take / took] place tomorrow / [not take / didn't take] place

the meeting [be / were] canceled / [not be / were not] canceled 

it [happen / happened] now than later / [not happen / didn't happen] now

My personal choice is probably more often the present subjunctive, though I can imagine myself using either one.

CJ 

 

 

  
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