Pucca  +  382689 Thu, 21 Jun 07 09:44 PM  CalifJim wrote: successful at - possible - used only about one-tenth as often as successful in according to Google. Hello Rex! CalifJim said it was possible, look at what he said! Pucca Joined on Sun, Aug 27 2006 Spain Senior Member 2,972

	CalifJim  +  382778 Fri, 22 Jun 07 02:44 AM idiom:  not to relish the thought of + -ing expression =  not to be very enthusiastic about + ing expression It's used for when you don't want to do something  -- when you don't even want to think about doing it -- when you'd prefer to avoid doing it because it is such an irksome task. I don't relish the thought of doing laundry tonight. Susan didn't relish the thought of studying for her English exam. Robert doesn't relish the thought of having his tooth pulled. (to relish:  to enjoy greatly, said especially of food.  Alice relishes sauteed chicken with lemon and capers.) CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,455 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche Idioms

	CalifJim  +  382780 Fri, 22 Jun 07 02:50 AM Have you heard people say something like I am successful at doing something? Yes. I'm glad to hear that you were successful at installing Ubuntu Linux.  (That means that I'm glad to hear that you were successful in installing it!)  CJ CalifJim

	Pucca  +  382789 Fri, 22 Jun 07 03:13 AM CalifJim, thanks for your explanation! ..I wrote it down in my list of idioms! - I don't relish the thought of studying philosophy anymore. // Hope it's correct! By the way, I googled "Succeeded at" and didn't find any definition about it, just texts containing it. Does that mean that I have to continue using "succeeded in"? Pucca Idioms, List of Idioms

	CalifJim  +  382790 Fri, 22 Jun 07 03:23 AM < I don't relish the thought of studying philosophy anymore. > It's fine. <didn't find any definition about it, just texts containing it> That's the point!  Study the texts that contain successful at and the texts that contain successful in.  What differences do you find concerning the words that follow?  Any differences?  Or is everything the same?  If the same kinds of expressions follow both versions, then there isn't much difference.   It takes a lot of time to do this; that's why I mentioned that you might not relish the thought of doing it!  To continue using successful in is just a strategy, of course, but it will work until you learn the truth! CJ CalifJim

	Pucca  +  383198 Sat, 23 Jun 07 03:07 AM Hello CalifJim! I've been looking at some texts containing both succeeded at and succeeded in but I'm not really sure of what I am going to say. I've seen that they both are followed by a verb in gerund. "Succeeded in" is followed by a place --> Succeede in Middle East. "Succeeded at" is followed by a number, the article "the" and "something". I don't know how to call this "something" , maybe with a sentence? "I succeeded at bungy jumping", would it be a correct sentence? I think I'll continue another day with this, it's a bit late for me and my brain can't go further. Pucca Articles, Verbs, Gerunds

	Charlotte_T  +  383220 Sat, 23 Jun 07 04:38 AM Can successful in followed by verbs? Eg. Successful in doing something... Normally I see it being used in front of nouns only. Charlotte_T Joined on Fri, May 11 2007 Junior Member 59 Verbs, Nouns

	CalifJim  +  383235 Sat, 23 Jun 07 05:27 AM Can successful in followed by verbs? Eg. Successful in doing something. Yes.  That's primarily what this thread is about. CJ CalifJim Verbs

	CalifJim  +  383238 Sat, 23 Jun 07 05:31 AM <I succeeded at bungy jumping> It's fine. To succeed in the Middle East doesn't count    because you need cases where the words that follow succeed in and succeed at tell what activity was successful, not where the success occurred. Keep up the good work. CJ CalifJim