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RE: Teacher David???? page 13

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Imagine a group of EFL trainee teachers.

They are travelling to X-ia, to teach English to the Xs. But first, they have to learn a little X-ish themselves.

They are to be taught X-ish by Teacher A and Teacher B.

Teacher A has a poster on his wall. It says:


"If you're English, and you want to understand X-ish thoroughly, you must put aside your English ways of thinking, and learn to think like an X."
Teacher B also has a poster. It says:


"Don't let X-ish culture dominate your usage."
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Now here's my question, Milky:

Which approach is more likely to foster awareness of, and sensitivity to, the X-ish culture?

Teacher A's? or Teacher B's?

MrP
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...opella forensis / adducit febris...
Read my lips:

You are too much, Mr P. My discussions with you end here.
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Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
Read my lips

Milky, are you aware that is a very rude (as in ill-mannered) thing to say to someone?
England
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The name says it all.


Read my lips

Milky, are you aware that is a very rude (as in ill-mannered) thing to say to someone?

Please see MR P's post about Jean-Marie le Pen. If you think that post is not provocative and rude, we have a problem with moderation here.
Senior Member 3,149
Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".


Read my lips

Milky, are you aware that is a very rude (as in ill-mannered) thing to say to someone?

Why not delete it if offends you? You have the reins.
Senior Member 3,149
Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
"Honorifics are essential in the Korean language, and I sometimes sense in fluent English-speaking Korean colleagues and students a frustration that English is so blunt, so lacking in means of showing courtesy (and of withholding it). (See Rhee, 1994)."
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Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
Compare this quote with Mr P's below it:

  • Different languages – and different Englishes – might not share Americans’ conversation conventions. The topics and styles for small talk in the might give offense in or . To Arabs, conversation can seem tepid and unenthusiastic. To Americans, German Swiss sometimes seem brusquely inconsiderate of “face.” To Dutch listeners, Americans can seem too prone to self-promotion, while to Germans, Americans often sound absurdly optimistic.


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    Mr P wrote:

    If you're English, and you want to understand Russian or Japanese or German thoroughly, you have to put aside your English ways of thinking, and learn to think in Russian or Japanese or German.
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    Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
    I'm sorry if it offended you, Milky. But if you're entitled to say that "you must put aside your English ways of thinking" reflects British cultural imperialism, I'm surely entitled to point out that "don't let others impose their culture" is the watchword of several unpleasant political organisations.

    However, I won't mention it again.

    MrP
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    ...opella forensis / adducit febris...
    Plonk.

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    Senior Member 3,149
    Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
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