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Goodman

#210420 Tue, 28 Mar 06 05:50 PM

Rish,

What I tried to say was most of the English volunteers on this forum know their subject and can explain questions without having the needs of going to “Google” or dictionary which are good sourcs of information for learning. But if someone constantly relies on Goggle and Dictionary to retrieve information so that he can pass onto others, then there is a question about his intent and integrity.

I presume most of us here know how past participle behaves which was what caused the heavy discussion to begin with. Past or present perfect tense work with auxiliary “have” or “had” but with a “verb to BE”, a past participle can behave like an adjective i.e. She was well dressed. That’s what I meant by “behave” and sorry to say that was where the disagreeing was all about. Tongue Tied [:S]

Goodman

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Verbs, Resume, Tenses, Auxiliaries, Present Perfect

Goodman

#210425 Tue, 28 Mar 06 06:10 PM

I am not taking side here but I agree with Nona for a simple reason. First, this forum is for ESL level learners who need help on firming up their English basics; correct? What purpose would it serve for the them to learn the 13^th , 14^th or 18^thcentury English? To me, there is none and it only confuses them. To be honest with you, it got me confused at times by reading it. I don’t find Nona’s comment as personal attack, rather she is speaking the truth and often times; the truth is hard to swallow. It may be true that some like to share their older and deeper interests in English or Literature, but this forum is not the appropriate place for it. There is nothing personal about it. I know I have said more than my 2 cents. But I am a straight shooter and I can eat what I dish out.

Goodman

Tenses, Literature

rishonly

#210426 Tue, 28 Mar 06 06:28 PM

Goodman wrote:

Rish,

What I tried to say was most of the English volunteers on this forum know their subject and can explain questions without having the needs of going to “Google” or dictionary which are good sourcs of information for learning. But if someone constantly relies on Goggle and Dictionary to retrieve information so that he can pass onto others, then there is a question about his intent and integrity.

I presume most of us here know how past participle behaves which was what caused the heavy discussion to begin with. Past or present perfect tense work with auxiliary “have” or “had” but with a “verb to BE”, a past participle can behave like an adjective i.e. She was well dressed. That’s what I meant by “behave” and sorry to say that was where the disagreeing was all about.

Makes sense. Thanks.

rishonly

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Verbs, Resume, Tenses, Auxiliaries, Present Perfect

Goodman

#210446 Tue, 28 Mar 06 08:43 PM

Anonymous wrote:
Goodman wrote:

Has it occurred to you that I am the only one who still have a little stubbornness left in me to keep this pointless exchange going? What you are saying is that you are the only person on this forum intellectual enough to appreciate English from times past? Soon you will be all alone.

Hi,

Is it "Still have" or "Still has"? Thank your anser.

In this passage,".....that I am the only one who still have a little stubbornness .....", it takes the 1st and 2nd person rule and thus "have " is the correct modal to use. Unless I have wrong all along

Goodman

Tenses, Modals

rishonly

#210461 Tue, 28 Mar 06 10:20 PM

Goodman wrote:

In this passage,".....that I am the only one who still have a little stubbornness .....", it takes the 1st and 2nd person rule and thus "have " is the correct modal to use. Unless I have wrong all along

Hi,

In my opinion, the complete subject of "have" is the noun phrase " the only one". Hence, it should be "still has". Please jump in to correct me if I am off the track.

rishonly

Tenses, Nouns, Noun Phrases, Modals

Goodman

#210503 Wed, 29 Mar 06 01:07 AM

Ok, after some research on-line, I stand corrected. You are right. All the listings showed the verb after “the only one” as 3^rd person. Learned something today my self! Surprise [:O]

I am the only one [who still have a little stubbornness] the bracketed part is not a phrase though, it's a clause in my opinion. Hope I am not wrong for the 2nd time! Big Smile [:D]

Goodman

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rishonly

#210524 Wed, 29 Mar 06 02:23 AM

Goodman wrote:

Ok, after some research on-line, I stand corrected. You are right. All the listings showed the verb after “the only one” as 3^rd person. Learned something today my self!

I am the only one [who still have a little stubbornness] the bracketed part is not a phrase though, it's a clause in my opinion. Hope I am not wrong for the 2nd time!