Tense difference

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Anonymous  #559854  Thu, 28 Aug 08 11:30 PM
Hi,

A few days back, I wrote something and post it in this forum for corrections. After a while, Mr. M corrected it, but I have one question. What is the difference between the two in terms of the tense change of the second sentence? Remind you that there is no change in the first sentence.

Mr. M's correction:

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would have been expecting to graduate in a month like me.

My orginal sentences:   

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.

Sorry for not following up this question with the original thread posts. 
  
Huevos  #559870  Fri, 29 Aug 08 12:19 AM
There are certain accepted ways to write conditional sentences. Mr M's rewrite is known as a type 3 conditional. If he had seen her he would have asked her to marry him. This happened in the past and is immutable. The content of the "would" clause is purely hypothesis since the "if" clause can no longer be fulfilled.

Another type of conditional is the type 2. If he saw her he would ask her to marry him. This is looking at the future, not the past, but the speaker is expressing his belief that there is little chance the "if" clause will be fulfilled, although such an event is possible.

In your sentence you are mixing the "if" clause of a type 3 with the "would" clause from a type 2 and I suspect that is why Mr M. has edited it..

  
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Anonymous  #559878  Fri, 29 Aug 08 01:08 AM
Thank you.  I think my version is called a mixed condtionl with present-time implications, whereas Mr. M's correctional effort could be called a type 3 conditional.

My original writing, I believe, dealt with a person about to graduate from middle schoo. I think I wrote how wonderful it was, the teachers and students included. Then, I thought about Sue, then came to this:

Mr. M's correction:

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would have been expecting to graduate in a month like me.

My orginal sentences:   

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.
 
I feel my version is OK, possibly better, since it carries a present-day implication as a mixed conditional, like "If I had studied harder at high school, I would be expecting to a good college now."
  
Anonymous  #560013  Fri, 29 Aug 08 11:07 AM
Hi,

Can any one confirm whether this I wrote is a correct mixed condition with present-time meaning and goes well with the present tense of the sentence it is preceding? Thank you

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.
  
Cool Breeze  #560029  Fri, 29 Aug 08 12:19 PM
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I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would have been expecting to graduate in a month like me.

My orginal sentences:   

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.

 

Both sentences are fine with me. As you say, your sentence has a reference to the present time and gives the reader the impression that the speaker still attends school and has not yet graduated. The first sentence gives the impression that the speaker has graduated from school and Sue would probably have graduated from school as well if she hadn't transferred to another school.

CB

 

  
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Huevos  #560118  Fri, 29 Aug 08 03:24 PM
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Can any one confirm whether this I wrote is a correct mixed condition with present-time meaning and goes well with the present tense of the sentence it is preceding? Thank you
Hmm! I'm not sure about prescription, but the "if" clause refers to a past event, while the "would" clause refers to a future one so my guess is it's perfectly valid. It sounds natural too.
  
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