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Tallulah Tam

#154534 Thu, 03 Nov 05 01:34 AM

And then there is the Biblical "know someone" (but that's another story)

Tallulah Tam

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Anonymous

#154695 Thu, 03 Nov 05 10:58 AM

but still "I know him for 5 years" (present tense) is not acceptable, is it? (It would be ok in German, though)

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pieanne

#154703 Thu, 03 Nov 05 11:27 AM

If we're to use "ago" here, I'd prefer "I met him/her 5 years ago" to "I knew him/her 5 years ago". Because I think you still know the person, albeit not so ... intimately?

pieanne

Joined on Thu, Jan 20 2005

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I'm glad to help, but I'm not a native! And please excuse my typos...

Tallulah Tam

#154707 Thu, 03 Nov 05 11:35 AM

On reconsidering the answers I gave regarding PAST PARTICIPLES.

I think that answer should have been "knowledge" (able) (ably) not "knowing"

Example sentence:- "The teacher being very knowledgable corrected Tallulah's mistakes". (modifies teacher)

Or could it be BOTH knowing AND knowledgable?

Example sentence:- " He wore a very knowing look".

Please feel free to enter into a discussion with me, we all learn by our mistakes, thank you. Smile [:)]

Tallulah Tam

#154710 Thu, 03 Nov 05 11:44 AM

Pieanne, BOTH are correct.

"I knew him 5 years ago" indicates that you had a relationship with him five years ago. ( Perhaps you worked with him).

Whereas, "I met him 5 years ago" indicates that you only knew him briefly 5 years ago.( Perhaps you were only just introduced to him).

Tallulah Tam

pieanne

#154726 Thu, 03 Nov 05 12:41 PM

Yes, there is "to know", and ... "to know" Smile [:)]

pieanne

goldmund

#154747 Thu, 03 Nov 05 01:50 PM

Dear Tallulah,

It is perhaps impolite of me to say so. Smile [:)] But it is not a present perfect progressive in this sentence: «I have known him for five years». Here is a present perfect progressive: «I have been seeing him for five years». It is «have been» with the present participle.

May I say also that it is not a future tense in this sentence: «By the time we get there I know the show will have started». It is a future perfect tense. Smile [:)]

Also «knowing» is not a past participle in this sentence: «The teacher being very knowledgable corrected Tallulah's mistakes». It is a present participle.

Kind regards, Smile [:)]

Goldmund

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Tallulah Tam

#154791 Thu, 03 Nov 05 03:32 PM

Thanks Goldmund,

OH dear....... It is a long time since I did English grammar at school. My answers are all from memory, I am not looking anything up, (as is patently obvious). Perhaps I should Thinking [*-)] They say you forget old stuff to make room for the new, obviously I have forgotten A LOT!!

OK, so I got SOME part of it right. "I have known him for five years" is present perfect, not present perfect progressive?

The second one I knew. Future perfect is used to express an action preceding another action. Future tense would be "The show will start at 7pm'? ( I am forgetting the rules about will have, shall have, have been etc.)

Bad examples.

I bow to your superior knowledge teacher. Smile [:)]

E for effort though?

Tallulah

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davkett

#154870 Thu, 03 Nov 05 09:25 PM

Tallulah Tam wrote:

Future tense:- "By the time we get there I know the show will have started". (something is going to happen in the future)

I won't claim to be really sharp on the names and functions of all the verb tenses, but I'm quite certain that the future tense of know is will know. Therefore, the sentence would read, 'By the time we get there, I will know that (or if) the show has started.'

davkett

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