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Clive  #154920  Thu, 03 Nov 05 11:14 PM

Hi guys,

By the time we get there I know the show will have started. 

I'm just jumping into your interesting discussion here, with my interpretation for the last little bit, above. My apologies if my comments aren't germane.

.... I know .... Simple Present. I know this, right now.

....the show will have started". Future perfect. Describes the situation that will exist by the time we get there 

You could recast the sentence, and show this interpretation more clearly, by saying  

I know the show will have started by the time we get there. 

Best wishes, Clive

  
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davkett  #154952  Fri, 04 Nov 05 01:04 AM
 Clive wrote:

 My apologies if my comments aren't germane.

Clive, I was only commenting above, on the example purporting (as I understood it) to give an example of the future tense of the word know.  But perhaps you are not referring here to my post. 

 

 

 

  
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Tallulah Tam  #155137  Fri, 04 Nov 05 03:07 PM

Pieanne,   That sentence, "I met him five years ago" could indicate that you still know him, or that you have known him on and off for five years, as in:-

Question:-  "Do you know him?"

Answer:-   "Yes, I met him five years ago."

A better answer would be  "Yes, I have known him for five years."  (But you can never control what people are going to say).

An answer of, "I met him five years ago," is ambiguous and would prompt me to ask for clarification, "Do you know him well?  Do you still know him?" (Especially if I were a roving reporter, or I wanted a reference for him).

Then the clarification could be, "No, I only met him once at a party".

or

"Yes, he married my sister."

  
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pieanne  #155141  Fri, 04 Nov 05 03:14 PM

I couldn't agree more, Tallulah...

Moreover, you can never control how (well) people know eachother  Big Smile [:D]

<Question:-  "Do you know him?"

Answer:-   "Yes, I met him five years ago."> This means "I know his face", more or less

<"Yes, I have known him for five years." > This means "we've been in touch for 5 years", more or less again...

 

  
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Tallulah Tam  #155146  Fri, 04 Nov 05 03:22 PM

<"Yes, I have known him for five years." > This means "we've been in touch for 5 years", more or less again...

Or it could mean you are living with him! Wink [;)]

 

  
Tallulah Tam  #155153  Fri, 04 Nov 05 03:37 PM

Generally speaking, I would take an answer of "I met him five years ago." to mean just that.

You had one meeting with him five years ago.

If anyone else has different ideas, please don't be shy. Smile [:)]

  
pieanne  #155160  Fri, 04 Nov 05 03:58 PM
 Tallulah Tam wrote:

<"Yes, I have known him for five years." > This means "we've been in touch for 5 years", more or less again...

Or it could mean you are living with him! Wink [;)]

 

Well all the mores and the lesses are no grammatical matters...

  
Tallulah Tam  #155178  Fri, 04 Nov 05 04:47 PM

"Well all the mores and the lesses are no grammatical matters.."

No, but developing a subject makes a more interesting discussion.

  
goldmund  #155180  Fri, 04 Nov 05 04:50 PM
 Tallulah Tam wrote:

Generally speaking, I would take an answer of "I met him five years ago." to mean just that.

You had one meeting with him five years ago.

If anyone else has different ideas, please don't be shy. Smile [:)]

Dear friends,

It is my opinion that it is possible to confuse two meanings of «meet». The first is «become acquainted with». The second is «encounter».

It is my opinion also that it is not possible to know the meaning of «meet» in the bare sentence «I met her five years ago in Mariabronn». It is perhaps either. Smile [:)]

It is fortunate that we meet bare sentences only in considerations of grammatical matters, no? Smile [:)]

Kind regards, Smile [:)]

Goldmund

  
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